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Suggestions / Re: Lay down some better guidlines to get trusted
« on: March 26, 2012, 07:05:36 pm »
The revision part is pretty much the main thing I'm referring to. At least have a productive discussion about it instead of one person saying no and that being the end of it. The ideas I'm throwing out there are just ideas to get people thinking. In my opinion revision is probably the best route since as dejected pointed out you can't just give the water use to every member. There are too many players for Mods/Op's/Admins to fairly manage the current trusted system.

Even if every Admin/Op/Mod doesn't agree at least listen to the people who play on the server we can see problems from a different perspective sometimes. I'm not saying the general players are always right but sometimes they are so they should not be dismissed so quickly. If a better system were in place or at least some compromises made I believe it would quiet enough complaints to make a difference.   

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Suggestions / Re: Lay down some better guidlines to get trusted
« on: March 25, 2012, 08:10:57 pm »
@DJAlphaWolf
Don't get me wrong I completely understand the reasoning behind it. I'm not hugely concerned with getting it myself, I like to play on the server either way. The ones of you that know me understand that it's not a big thing to me. My concern largely stems from having to hear certain members complain constantly about not being trusted. If there were a post made with a set of specific guidelines (@Nick play and follow the rules is a blanked guideline) that a complaining member can be pointed to it may help. My idea behind this is that they can be told there strong in 1,2, and 4 but need to show improvement in 3,5,7,8,9,10. This may help to quiet their complaint thus elevating (not eliminating) the ear sores people on vent/in game are exposed to. My goal isn't to stir shit, it's to give input based on a different perspective.

It's just an opinion of mine, I'm not saying it is necessarily right or wrong it's just an idea. :)

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Suggestions / Lay down some better guidlines to get trusted
« on: March 25, 2012, 05:49:26 am »
First off I want to make myself perfectly clear, this is not a gripe so much as it is an observation followed by a suggestion.

To get trusted it generally means get recognized by a Mod or higher. Were told that we earn trusted by not greifing, being active, being helpful, and not asking for it.
Here are some problems I've seen with that.

1. Being active doesn't seem to be a top priority when promoting, it seems like getting on the Mods good side is the kicker.

2. A player can be extremely helpful and be overlooked by a Mod (or higher) and this may lead to a player asking which will pretty much kill any chance of them getting it.

3. If a person is active and would just like to keep to them self and they do (say for a month or so) isn't that a demonstration of being trustworthy.

Solutions
1. Leave the current system in place as one of two ways you can be trusted but add an application process. Make is so if someone hasn't gotten trusted within a month or so of being active they can apply. Of course this wouldn;t mean they get it. It be a way for the Mods and above to evaluate their past month and if they have no complaints then it could lead to a way of getting trusted. If there denied then they can apply in 2-3 more months again

2. Lay down some less general guidelines so people have a better idea of how to earn it. Make it a goal they can work for.   

3. Don't be so strict on the "If you ask your not getting it" I understand if someone is asking multiple times but if someone asks one time (say a new player that does not know) cut them some slack and let them know that further inquiry's will lessen their chance. If you cut people slack on being banned for certain things then you can cut some slack on this.

Hopefully there is something useful in here that will help, thanks for at least reading it.

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