D00M, do you just choose and read parts of messages?
I did not say it was wrong of you to sell them.

I'm having this thread closed. (apparently I can't close this thread)

I don't know why you seem to have a problem with me d00m.

http://www.opticraft.net/index.php/topic,11202.0.html

^ this thread explains why Melon Farming was banned.

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Quote from: oreojr123456789 on June 27, 2012, 09:05:06 am
Is the removal because people are make a HELL of a lot of money from melon/pumpkin auto farms? If so, why don't you just lower the sell price AGAIN.

"We dont like the idea of players getting rich off of afking."
Autospawning and autokilling = allowing users to afk and gain iron, come back and click a button.

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"This has been addressed. Building an automatic farm provides too much income. It breaks the concept of survival."

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To people saying "those who created the iron farms had to spend immense time" etc.

"Sure you have to build the farm, but to actually get money out of it, all you have to do is afk for hours."

4.
"If people want to turn into enemies because we are trying to balance out the economy let them."

I don't see how keeping Iron Farms are "balancing out the economy"

5.
"Cacti selling is being taken away too, so I wouldn't waste money there."


Since the general decision of the higher community want to keep Iron Farming and ban all other sorts of farming to maintain their monopoly, this will be my last post regarding this subject.  But just going through the reasons why Melon farming was banned, most reasons are applicable to Iron Farming.

That's all.

I am not saying I don't enjoying playing on the server.  I have secured my own land after mining for a while, it's a concern over "balance" as mentioned by ALL the mods during the Melon incident which I was not even here for.

I mentioned it in-game, and I think it has caught the attention of a few mods, but it seems like people don't really care.
Which really makes me want to just join in while I can, but I am just sitting in the market place until a clear decision has been made.

And by Melon Farm, I wasn't talking about a 100 length mega farm, more like a 8 melon farm.  Either way melons are obsolete in the market place, so it does not matter at this point.

I have a question/issue with what farming is allowed and what is not.

A fellow player has brought to my attention that Melon Farming was banned, and players are not allowed to sell melons at the market.  I understand that the speed in which Melon's grow are ridiculous, and combined with semi-automated farming, can be an unstoppable profit machine.  I do not know how much Stacks of Melon's sold at the Market, so this information would be helpful.

Now, in my eyes, a similar problem is already here, Iron Farming.
Iron sells for 50 A PIECE at the market place.  A stack would be worth 3.2k.  If I am assuming correctly, the Farm is similar in concept to this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhY7AiZgLyY

Much like the Melon Farm, this is semi-automatic, and can bring it a lot of money.
This defeats the purpose of players having to go Mine for resources and money.  All you'd have to do is gather up iron, and sell it at the market.  Not to mention, these farms can be "lent" to people for money.

If I were to follow suite and create an iron farm and start selling for 10 e/a, I could potentially destroy the whole economy as there would be no reason to buy Iron elsewhere, or even go find it in mines.

I've used the search function to see if there were any rules against farming.
I've found none, except for Mob Spawning.  A player may not claim a Mob Spawner as their own.  Isn't an Iron Farm a player-made mob-spawner? They auto spawn Villagers and Iron Golems, much like a Mob Spawner would.

I am not asking for justice, or anyone getting banned.  All I ask is for there to be CLEAR rules as to prevent misunderstandings.

While in-game, a mod told me that in fact, all kinds of farming are illegal.  Iron or Obsidian.
There are too many mixed opinions that it is very hard to get the facts straight.

If Obsidian farming is against the rules, the same should hold for Iron.  Or if Iron is allowed, the others should be re-included as well.

I just want a clearer picture since I am also a new player.

Thank you.

-allyourmines (himajinizm)