Ice, Silk Touch, and trusted players

[devzer0]

I am thinking about leaving opticraft for a less restrictive server after we trusted players can no longer harvest ICE with silk touch and place/break ice to create water.  Are there any plans to address this? Vote here if you have an opinion on the matter.

[bantam2]

 Why not use a bucket?

[Xeadin]

Be thankful that people can't grief using ice to make water and destroy rails, redstone, and the like.

Tell me-- Is anyone else complaining?

[Terrewee]

I do not care about ice.

[☣2crzy4uall☣]

I cant get Ice either lol, its everyone, not you

[FNVcourierjon(SigilStone)]

We can't harvest ice anymore? Wow, so not nessessary...I'm sorry but really?

[SalsaInABowl]

Be thankful that people can't grief using ice to make water and destroy rails, redstone, and the like.

Tell me-- Is anyone else complaining?

I hated this one guy who kept going into my laboratory and griefing my Redstone with ice by breaking it. And like bantam said, why not use a bucket? And are you really going to leave just because trusted annoy pick up ice? Just saying, less restrictive servers have a lot of grief in them.

[FNVcourierjon(SigilStone)]

Yea that's petty that you're leaving because of that. 

[SalsaInABowl]

Well maybe Trusted could have ice. I mean, we have buckets, so why not? (The dude trolling me was a member)

[devzer0]

Sorry I don't mean to be negative or petty, but ice is very useful for making mob/farm systems, and other cool stuff, and it stacks so if you have to place a lot of water then using a bucket is a real pain. I didn't say I was leaving, just that looking into other servers crossed my mind. I never have grief issues, because I always use protection stones on stuff I care about, and enclose it so no one can flow water into them anyway. Ice is a very cool and useful game dynamic for people who like to build mechanisms. IMHO if you don't enclose your stuff and use a PS then you run the risk of being griefed. If a non-trusted has gotten a silk touch pick through enchanting then either they have been playing for a long time, and it's getting to be about time that they should be trusted, or they'll do something dumb any way (if they haven't already) and get banned. Obviously there is a balance that needs to be set between anti-grief measures and preserving the original game mechanics.

I just wanted to bring this up to see if other people missed this game dynamic as much as I do, because, if they do, then maybe we can get this fixed for trusted ppl. The point of the post was not to bitch and whine, but to gauge interest in this from the community. If many ppl feel like I do, it will be useful for ops/admins/mods/etc to know so that they can look into a fix. If no one else cares, then it will never get changed and I need to determine how much I miss this (and other) game mechanics, to decide what I will do.  I just wanted to gauge interest, not criticize anyone or whine.

[devzer0]

PS I admit my original post came off as a bit whiny, for which I apologize.

[Pensfan121]

i support the idea of trusts being able to break ice and make water...however members and below should not be able to do this.

[proush600563]

Can we still use ice?
I would support using ice but only as a block
I don't think we should be able to break it for water since we can just use buckets or call a mod

[techdude98]

here is an idea use /helpop can i have some water here. you see that's part of our job to place water for people so if u need water placed just call a moderator not that big of a deal.

[Italian_Crafter]

I am going to agree with devzer0 on some of his points. I have used ice for some of my projects, and there should be some sort of way to place it like snape said maybe trusted+ should be enabled to use it.