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I'd say at the moment its quite steady, but its more about quality than quantity, most people on the server are amazing to get on with ^_^
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The economy is steady in my opinion. It's hard to get money, just as it should be.
I'm Much more smarter admin than whoever banned me.
Note: Rant is from a millionaire
Quote from: Freekkiller on April 17, 2013, 03:10:28 pmThe economy is steady in my opinion. It's hard to get money, just as it should be.it's actually extremely easy to make money, the problem is the second the general public finds out how to easily make money that method gets nerfed pumpkins...melons.... eggs..... cactus.... monster spawners.... iron..... (im sure gold wont be to far away).... and there's a bunch more. most of them get nerfed with the excuse "it was causing lag" which is only half true since, most, of the money making methods only caused lag wen people would afk for countless hours letting entities stack like crazy, which makes afk farming the main culprit, and admins don't like you making money for doing nothing (at the farm that took you countless hours to build)the problem with the economy is that we claim to be a "survival server", and survival servers don't have an economy or a market......which by definition having those two things makes us an econ/freebuild server but ya kno... we're a survival server..... with nerfed mob spawn rates..... and missing key survival aspects... like some kinda threat to actually survive... besides random 1x1 xray tunnels to bedrock while ur running mindlessly through a dark forest with no mobs...but i digress, since we're a survival server they (staff in control of such matters) refuse to allow us to make any usefull amount of money, since then we could buy w/e we want and that would b the straw that breaks the cammels back and gets rid of that "survival" aspect that is soooo apparent on the server so in summary, it's easy as hell to make money... untill people catch on, then it's suddenly against the rules to make money and all the work you put into being able to do so goes to waste. and then it's hard to make money...... until a new method of money making comes about (happens like every semi-major/major patch) and the process repeats itself.meanwhile of course the people that've caught onto this become filthy rich and sit on millions while the slowpokes remain poor.... but the poor people expect high prices on goods, because they do /baltop and see millions, so clearly the server's rich and my diamonds are worth $500/ea..... and then they struggle to make any money and think it's super difficult, but really they're just caught in the "poor loop"suppose the thing that erks me the most about this process is that all the people caught in the "poor loop" catch onto the money making methods late, spend hours on end building one of the many money making farms that've come and gone, and end up with less money than when they started because they finally get their farm done are lets say 10k in the hole, and that item gets removed from the market for being too profitable.....we either need to have a market and accept the fact that people will always try to be rich and buy everything they want and stop pretending to be a survival server, or we abandon the market/econ and continue pretending to be a survival server with no real threats besides falling to your death.#EndRant
Quote from: Holy_Moses on April 17, 2013, 07:53:56 pmNote: Rant is from a millionaire +1I say it is hard to profit, mainly because of others becoming super rich. I say we should stick to the fact that things can be profitable or abandon the economy system and use trading items instead...
well if you want money selling endstone gets you money fast it got me about 1k in 3 days of mostly mining up endstone :L
(click to show/hide)Quote from: tiggy26668 on April 17, 2013, 03:52:56 pmQuote from: Freekkiller on April 17, 2013, 03:10:28 pmThe economy is steady in my opinion. It's hard to get money, just as it should be.it's actually extremely easy to make money, the problem is the second the general public finds out how to easily make money that method gets nerfed pumpkins...melons.... eggs..... cactus.... monster spawners.... iron..... (im sure gold wont be to far away).... and there's a bunch more. most of them get nerfed with the excuse "it was causing lag" which is only half true since, most, of the money making methods only caused lag wen people would afk for countless hours letting entities stack like crazy, which makes afk farming the main culprit, and admins don't like you making money for doing nothing (at the farm that took you countless hours to build)the problem with the economy is that we claim to be a "survival server", and survival servers don't have an economy or a market......which by definition having those two things makes us an econ/freebuild server but ya kno... we're a survival server..... with nerfed mob spawn rates..... and missing key survival aspects... like some kinda threat to actually survive... besides random 1x1 xray tunnels to bedrock while ur running mindlessly through a dark forest with no mobs...but i digress, since we're a survival server they (staff in control of such matters) refuse to allow us to make any usefull amount of money, since then we could buy w/e we want and that would b the straw that breaks the cammels back and gets rid of that "survival" aspect that is soooo apparent on the server so in summary, it's easy as hell to make money... untill people catch on, then it's suddenly against the rules to make money and all the work you put into being able to do so goes to waste. and then it's hard to make money...... until a new method of money making comes about (happens like every semi-major/major patch) and the process repeats itself.meanwhile of course the people that've caught onto this become filthy rich and sit on millions while the slowpokes remain poor.... but the poor people expect high prices on goods, because they do /baltop and see millions, so clearly the server's rich and my diamonds are worth $500/ea..... and then they struggle to make any money and think it's super difficult, but really they're just caught in the "poor loop"suppose the thing that erks me the most about this process is that all the people caught in the "poor loop" catch onto the money making methods late, spend hours on end building one of the many money making farms that've come and gone, and end up with less money than when they started because they finally get their farm done are lets say 10k in the hole, and that item gets removed from the market for being too profitable.....we either need to have a market and accept the fact that people will always try to be rich and buy everything they want and stop pretending to be a survival server, or we abandon the market/econ and continue pretending to be a survival server with no real threats besides falling to your death.#EndRantDon't get me wrong tiggy. I love the idea of you getting rich while you afk at your farm. You can blabber on all day about how long it took you to build but it really boils down to you getting money without having to do any consistent work.By the way, we didn't nerf iron ingots due to lag as you seemed to have claimed (melon farms actually contributed to a lot of server lag but i guess you failed to mention that because it wouldn't help your point) we nerfed them because of how rich people were getting off of iron farms. Simple as that. If you want to call it us controlling how much money people make go ahead, because that is what it is. Your argument is basically this, a new update comes out and I find a really easy way to make money, then the staff closes the loophole and they shouldn't do that because I like money.Your ultimatum at the end is really laughable. Because right now I can tell you neither of those will happen. As staff, we make decisions based on what we think would be best for the server, we don't make decisions based on how survival or non survival it would make us.
By the way, we didn't nerf iron ingots due to lag as you seemed to have claimed
most of them get nerfed with the excuse "it was causing lag" which is only half true