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Quote from: Lando_V on September 11, 2013, 07:47:37 pmIt's just a damn shame for those who are affected by this.Those affected by this quite simply set themselves up. If I were you, I'd stop arguing; and unless you can come up with a 110% legitimate reason this shouldn't continue, stop instigating this debate since it's clearly not going anywhere.
It's just a damn shame for those who are affected by this.
I say we adopt girlluvzermac's idea the was talking to me about the other day.
I should add that those of us who spent a ton of hours and moneys making our farms did not set ourselves up for this. Rather, Nick set us up for this.Ok, lets look at melons and pumpkins. They got out of hand. They were removed from the market...Cacti... removed from market slightly before it got out of hand, but it was expected to get out of hand. Removed.Hmm... What is the next farmable thing to move to... Sugarcane? Nah. Too cheap in the market. Only remaining thing is iron and gold. History showed that the farming of the other things were getting out of hand. Twice. So why were gold and iron ingots left in the marketplace when it was obvious that they'd be the next big farmed thing? We weren't setting ourselves up for this. The admins did. They waited until we put tons of effort into these farms, and now the items are being taken out of the market. This wouldn't be a big deal if iron and gold ingots were removed from the very start when it's obvious that people would move to farming them. And of course, this decisions so thinks of the player, right? Nah. More like the staff just doing what they want.
Sheesh, this is becoming as hectic as when the melons and pumpkins were removed, if not less.Lando, if you mean no offense, you should probably learn to keep your thoughts to yourself. Reading all that made me offended by the attitude towards the actions that have been made. And all those smiles, winks, and cheesy smiles really got on my nerves… It really doesn't help me think you mean at all "no offense"
Let's keep this civilised.
Not only do they stretch the distance between the "haves" and "have-not's"
You mean of course the distance between the "non-lazy" (those who actually build stuff including big farms) and the "lazy" (those who do not).
Because contrary to real life it is actually possible in Minecraft for EVERYONE to be rich.
...for very little effort...
For making a good farm it is required to invest a LOT of time and effort!
Your remark is just as ridiculous as saying that building a navy base requires very little effort...
Have you ever tried to fill 27 cells with 4 pods each with at least 4 villagers each? That's 4x4x27=432 villagers minimum.
Yes that takes time and effort.
Have you ever tried to mine 13 full double chests of obsidian? THAT's the equivalent of time and effort!
...they take up too much valuable space on the server and you've got to admit, they're pretty damn ugly too.
have to agree that most farms look damn ugly. It's a shame people don't invest a little bit more time to make them look good.
And yes they take a lot of space but valuable? I don't think so.
Most valuables have been stripped from the land, there aren't many goodies left to mine.
Added to that, there are so many abandoned houses or half finished houses taking "valuable" space. THAT's the ugly stuff! It would be nice if crap like that would be removed.
Or, if there is such a lack of space, why not just add extra land to the maps?
During the building of a big farm you don't earn money.
And when the farm is ready the amount of money is not infinite. Even when you spend an infinite (24/7 ? ) amount of time afk-ing (which no one has the time for) a farm produces only a certain amount of items per hour. So "infinite money" does not exist, no matter how big the farm is.
And as I said earlier, trying to sell to others isn't nearly as effective, even with a big price difference. People just won't buy all your stuff.
- I enjoy playing on this server very much!- I try to help other players, try to teach them how the game works and I still learn stuff myself.- I don't buy from anyone, I don't sell to anyone, I'm completely selfsupporting (that means mining every block I use myself).
- I think the economy on this server is a joke.- As long as there is a market, the term "survival" is a joke.
- The minigame /baltop, which a lot of people like a lot, will become a joke from the moment iron and gold are removed without wiping /baltop for a new start.
So in short; The best way to deal with the current problem is to remove the market entirely, making this a true survival server. It would solve everything instantly but a lot of people would be very disappointed.
The current solution of removing iron and gold is a terrible solution that doesn't realy solve anything and only causes disappointment among a specific group that deserves to be disappointed the least of all players!
If the afk-ing is a thorn in peoples eyes then we should attack that problem specifically. We must focus on how to solve that instead of using other harsh measures.
Nick set us up