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By the way I removed my post, your post made mine look stupid haha.
Lemme make it simpler. If someone use prem money to buy a diamond where will the diamond come from? It's unlikely optical will go mine a diamond and give it to that guy. So I guess the plugin will "create" the diamond. So hence the total amount of diamond in total will increase and hence reduce the value of diamond.
Protection from residence. The area you protect is limited in size, the only person who should ever have rights to protect the whole map is the host. Period. Instead the host sets the YML so you could say protect an area 256x256 from bedrock to sky, you get a large rectangle that's yours. Think of it as buying real estate, this may have part of a cave network in it, it may not. Regardless it's finite, the host can also set it so you can have more than one of these areas. It's completely customizable.Nick it eliminates the need for staff to be involved period, if the player has the funds with iConomy they buy the protection themself with commands. but only if they have the funds to actually make the purchase. Once purchased if they want to purchase more they can via more funds, or by ranking up to allow larger sizes of property bought. Once they buy it, unless they make it public of add friends they are the only ones (aside from admins) who can ever modify any block inside the real estate. No fire, no lava, no flooding, nothing. Though they are free to destroy their own stuff. Even if somebody that doesn't belong gets in, the server TPs them out.Nick maybe you could elaborate on what downfalls you see? On each of the servers I've been on I've never seen any downfalls with any of the protection systems. So maybe I'm just unaware.
Lemme make it simpler. If someone use prem money to buy a diamond where will the diamond come from? It's unlikely optical will go mine a diamond and give it to that guy. So I guess the plugin will "create" the diamond. So hence the total amount of diamond in total will increase and hence reduce the value of diamond.And secondly do u reserve space in a survival server?-.- what happens if we go exploring and it becomes dark. The area is reserved and we can't make a bunker to get through the night. I mean seriously do u reserve space in single player survival mode? If u don't and u can survive y do u need to reserve in smp? If u are worried about griefers than what are operators for? As I see nick is doing a great job. So I feel there's no need to reserve space.
Quote from: D00MKNlGHT on September 26, 2011, 12:41:37 pmLemme make it simpler. If someone use prem money to buy a diamond where will the diamond come from? It's unlikely optical will go mine a diamond and give it to that guy. So I guess the plugin will "create" the diamond. So hence the total amount of diamond in total will increase and hence reduce the value of diamond.And secondly do u reserve space in a survival server?-.- what happens if we go exploring and it becomes dark. The area is reserved and we can't make a bunker to get through the night. I mean seriously do u reserve space in single player survival mode? If u don't and u can survive y do u need to reserve in smp? If u are worried about griefers than what are operators for? As I see nick is doing a great job. So I feel there's no need to reserve space.Well, if you were building impressive stuff, you oppinion might not be the same.. Walls with snow on top, is hardly worth protecting..
Muhn, I am seriously appauled that you would even think that I am against suggested protection because i want peoples stuff to get griefed. I do plan on building many things on this server. I am in no way against protection, I just dont think having every guest constantly calling for protection is good for the server. Now if we were to add a builder rank, they could get protection.
I can see your point, and it is valid.I have joint questions for you. 1. If nothing bad is happening anymore, what is the problem?2. Think about void to bedrock protection. Imagine you are mining, not griefing. You mine, and mine. No diamonds (I know this is not valid for you, as you have 100s) but finally you come across one. You mine it. You can't, its protected, as it is 70 layers under some protected place. How would you feel?
Quote from: clawstrider on September 26, 2011, 02:30:44 pmI can see your point, and it is valid.I have joint questions for you. 1. If nothing bad is happening anymore, what is the problem?2. Think about void to bedrock protection. Imagine you are mining, not griefing. You mine, and mine. No diamonds (I know this is not valid for you, as you have 100s) but finally you come across one. You mine it. You can't, its protected, as it is 70 layers under some protected place. How would you feel?1. Im trying to suggest a permanet solution. Just cuz the ones that didnt know how to behave is now pretending to be respectfull again, hasent solved the problem, its just been moved.. (my work irl greatly involves findig permanet solutions, and im really good at it)2. I would turn 180 degrees and facepalm myself for mining in that area, since i must have been blind not spotting the structure above ground in the protected area. The last thing i would do, is blame others for my own mistake..Muh
1. And the permanant solution is either don't ban or ban them if they do it again, no?2. So you say you go overground, measure how far you mine exactly, then start mining, counting out each and every block? Because you can often mine 50+ blocks in a direction in a few mins without realising...
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