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Title: /water command
Post by: rytovius on June 20, 2012, 11:32:13 am
I think their would be a topic like this but I couldn't find it. If there is can someon post a link? Mods and ops can be very busy, but if I'm correct lots of that is from placing water. I think their should be a /water command that sends the message they say after /water to all trusted. That way it frees up mods, and gives trusted something to do ;) for jobs that are not near people's homes or need tons of water they will use /helpop.
Title: Re: /water command
Post by: cschurz on June 20, 2012, 12:01:47 pm
it's been talked about before and the general consensus is that it's not a Trusted's job to place water. Even hinting at the idea that they should be obligated to help place water is not what we want to do.

stick with "/helpop omg i need water plx"
Title: Re: /water command
Post by: rytovius on June 20, 2012, 12:07:53 pm
stick with "/helpop omg i need water plx"

Oh I won't be needing someone else to place my water :p
Title: Re: /water command
Post by: zxSM1FFYzx on June 20, 2012, 12:21:18 pm
Supported this idea becuase there are a limited amount of mods and gives us trusted members to help with
Title: Re: /water command
Post by: hennydeez on June 20, 2012, 01:14:29 pm
Supported this idea becuase there are a limited amount of mods and gives us trusted members to help with
I personally think that Trusted players should not inherit that command. I mean if a Trusted player stuffs up with water, say accidentally placing it on a whole complicated red-stone wiring, Moderators can easily redo it in which Trusted players can't.
If they're that desperate to help, use a bucket and do the best they can. Or pm one of the Staff members, I did that back then and it work.  :)
Title: Re: /water command
Post by: zxSM1FFYzx on June 20, 2012, 02:57:48 pm
Supported this idea becuase there are a limited amount of mods and gives us trusted members to help with
I personally think that Trusted players should not inherit that command. I mean if a Trusted player stuffs up with water, say accidentally placing it on a whole complicated red-stone wiring, Moderators can easily redo it in which Trusted players can't.
If they're that desperate to help, use a bucket and do the best they can. Or pm one of the Staff members, I did that back then and it work.  :)

could /helpop to repair...
Title: Re: /water command
Post by: hennydeez on June 20, 2012, 03:13:21 pm
Supported this idea becuase there are a limited amount of mods and gives us trusted members to help with
I personally think that Trusted players should not inherit that command. I mean if a Trusted player stuffs up with water, say accidentally placing it on a whole complicated red-stone wiring, Moderators can easily redo it in which Trusted players can't.
If they're that desperate to help, use a bucket and do the best they can. Or pm one of the Staff members, I did that back then and it work.  :)

could /helpop to repair...
Rephrase that, I didn't get what you mean.
Title: Re: /water command
Post by: zxSM1FFYzx on June 20, 2012, 03:18:57 pm
Fair enough, But question How many /Helpop Percentage is Water placement?
Title: Re: /water command
Post by: Kian on June 20, 2012, 03:23:56 pm
If you asked all the active trusted I'd say at least three quarters would be in on this. And Trusted don't have a lot to do apart from being trustable so placing water for people who need it would be good.
Title: Re: /water command
Post by: zxSM1FFYzx on June 20, 2012, 03:31:29 pm
True...
Title: Re: /water command
Post by: Zen00 on June 20, 2012, 04:18:31 pm
it's been talked about before and the general consensus is that it's not a Trusted's job to place water. Even hinting at the idea that they should be obligated to help place water is not what we want to do.

stick with "/helpop omg i need water plx"

This, plus say it in general chat as well, especially if there are only one or two mods on. Or just PM a trusted, if they're not busy, they will help.
Title: Re: /water command
Post by: Boshiwarrior on June 20, 2012, 04:25:25 pm
It is better to first ask a Mod+ if they can place water and then a Trusted if the Mods are too busy or don't respond.
Title: Re: /water command
Post by: zxSM1FFYzx on June 20, 2012, 04:39:23 pm
Yes but Moderators + are busy more with grief etc and i'm sure that mods would like some time to build...
Title: Re: /water command
Post by: hennydeez on June 21, 2012, 12:06:10 pm
Yes but Moderators + are busy more with grief etc and i'm sure that mods would like some time to build...
When you are on trial as Mod, that's when you dedicate your time to help all players, not just slack around and let you do the job.
Title: Re: /water command
Post by: zxSM1FFYzx on June 21, 2012, 12:19:28 pm
Yes but Moderators + are busy more with grief etc and i'm sure that mods would like some time to build...
When you are on trial as Mod, that's when you dedicate your time to help all players, not just slack around and let you do the job.

Yes but still if you are a Only "Trail" mod and nobody else and there are example 11 Water requests a /Helpwater command would help or again a moderator could jsut use /msg and give a Trusted player few names to sort out...
Title: Re: /water command
Post by: DeeKay on June 21, 2012, 03:03:24 pm
If there are no Moderators on at the time someone needs water, then sure they can ask a Trusted player to place it.
But I don't think there needs to be a whole new command for it, just simply ask a Trusted player in-game if no staff are available.
Title: Re: /water command
Post by: zxSM1FFYzx on June 21, 2012, 03:12:49 pm
Reasonable i've been thinking of this idea the whole day so, after my last post i thought that would be a better idea just if mods are busy /msg A trusted player to do it   ;)
Title: Re: /water command
Post by: zxSM1FFYzx on June 21, 2012, 03:23:21 pm
Me and Larko fight over water placement now :P
Title: Re: /water command
Post by: Xeadin on June 21, 2012, 04:41:44 pm
It shouldn't have to be a competition over who does what, you know :P
Title: Re: /water command
Post by: zxSM1FFYzx on June 21, 2012, 05:11:21 pm
I know but when i get there he's there :P
Title: Re: /water command
Post by: ViperZeroOne on June 21, 2012, 05:40:33 pm
Personally when I'm on I like if players simply say "Can someone help me with water" in the General chat.  It still creates a ticket for us, but also lets the trusted members know you need water at the same time.  Cuts down wait time for you, and helps out the mods if they're busy with other players.

Besides, I know a few trusted players that love running to help with water.  Why should Mods have all the fun?
Title: Re: /water command
Post by: rytovius on June 21, 2012, 06:13:14 pm
Ya most people just do /helpop i need water and trusted people cant do anything.
Title: Re: /water command
Post by: E1ectrik on June 21, 2012, 06:26:32 pm
How do trusted help if a person needs water in city protection ?
Title: Re: /water command
Post by: zxSM1FFYzx on June 21, 2012, 07:17:44 pm
The member with the protection gives them permission...
Title: Re: /water command
Post by: iGenerator on June 21, 2012, 08:33:39 pm
Trusted does not have to do anything for anyone it is their choice to seek out those who are a lower rank than them to place water, the help commands are made for people who are staff giving trusted members the responsibility to respond to help commands practically makes them Staff too, they are not. Trusted is just a person who isn't stupid, and follows the rules(and gets on mumble). It is nice for them to help but putting in a command for lessees to use is a waste of time.  If a player really wants to go out of their way to help another member of the community good for them, but once every trusted gets the message "omg i kneeds water." It is annoying and they are getting something they did not sign up for, because again, Trusted members have not applied for trusted it was thrust upon them.  And you might say,"Well some trusted can opt in if they want to help" Then they should make a mod application if they want to get commands of a person like a moderator.
Title: Re: /water command
Post by: ViperZeroOne on June 21, 2012, 09:30:18 pm
Trusted does not have to do anything for anyone it is their choice to seek out those who are a lower rank than them to place water, the help commands are made for people who are staff giving trusted members the responsibility to respond to help commands practically makes them Staff too, they are not. Trusted is just a person who isn't stupid, and follows the rules(and gets on mumble). It is nice for them to help but putting in a command for lessees to use is a waste of time.  If a player really wants to go out of their way to help another member of the community good for them, but once every trusted gets the message "omg i kneeds water." It is annoying and they are getting something they did not sign up for, because again, Trusted members have not applied for trusted it was thrust upon them.  And you might say,"Well some trusted can opt in if they want to help" Then they should make a mod application if they want to get commands of a person like a moderator.

Trusted's don't have to do anything they don't want to.  And your right, putting in a command for them to get water is kinda silly.  That said, when I look through the applications for moderators, and who's gonna get my recommendations, the first thing I look for are the people who I've seen carrying around half a dozen water buckets and just helping out whenever they see someone needing help.  If I see you keeping your water placing abilities for your own personal use then you've shown that you don't like helping others, and as such, in my eyes aren't a good choice for a moderator.
Title: Re: /water command
Post by: rytovius on June 21, 2012, 10:27:16 pm
Trusted does not have to do anything for anyone it is their choice to seek out those who are a lower rank than them to place water, the help commands are made for people who are staff giving trusted members the responsibility to respond to help commands practically makes them Staff too, they are not. Trusted is just a person who isn't stupid, and follows the rules(and gets on mumble). It is nice for them to help but putting in a command for lessees to use is a waste of time.  If a player really wants to go out of their way to help another member of the community good for them, but once every trusted gets the message "omg i kneeds water." It is annoying and they are getting something they did not sign up for, because again, Trusted members have not applied for trusted it was thrust upon them.  And you might say,"Well some trusted can opt in if they want to help" Then they should make a mod application if they want to get commands of a person like a moderator.

Trusted's don't have to do anything they don't want to.  And your right, putting in a command for them to get water is kinda silly.  That said, when I look through the applications for moderators, and who's gonna get my recommendations, the first thing I look for are the people who I've seen carrying around half a dozen water buckets and just helping out whenever they see someone needing help.  If I see you keeping your water placing abilities for your own personal use then you've shown that you don't like helping others, and as such, in my eyes aren't a good choice for a moderator.

Ok I guess having a command is a little much but whenever someone tells me they need water they already did the /helpop command and a mod is there.
Title: Re: /water command
Post by: ViperZeroOne on June 22, 2012, 02:44:12 am
Trusted does not have to do anything for anyone it is their choice to seek out those who are a lower rank than them to place water, the help commands are made for people who are staff giving trusted members the responsibility to respond to help commands practically makes them Staff too, they are not. Trusted is just a person who isn't stupid, and follows the rules(and gets on mumble). It is nice for them to help but putting in a command for lessees to use is a waste of time.  If a player really wants to go out of their way to help another member of the community good for them, but once every trusted gets the message "omg i kneeds water." It is annoying and they are getting something they did not sign up for, because again, Trusted members have not applied for trusted it was thrust upon them.  And you might say,"Well some trusted can opt in if they want to help" Then they should make a mod application if they want to get commands of a person like a moderator.

Trusted's don't have to do anything they don't want to.  And your right, putting in a command for them to get water is kinda silly.  That said, when I look through the applications for moderators, and who's gonna get my recommendations, the first thing I look for are the people who I've seen carrying around half a dozen water buckets and just helping out whenever they see someone needing help.  If I see you keeping your water placing abilities for your own personal use then you've shown that you don't like helping others, and as such, in my eyes aren't a good choice for a moderator.

Ok I guess having a command is a little much but whenever someone tells me they need water they already did the /helpop command and a mod is there.

Quick way to let us know you're gonna help is to reply to the player in the General channel.  Just say something like, "Hey ____ I can help you with that water".  Then we know it's taken care of and we'll just continue on helping others.  It also lets us mods know that you're actually helping out players (which is a good step towards becoming a mod yourself).
Title: Re: /water command
Post by: rytovius on June 22, 2012, 03:36:35 am
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Ok I will do that!