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Discussion forum => Legacy => Archives => General Discussion => Topic started by: High Roller on September 07, 2012, 01:32:31 am
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Hello Opticrafters,
I have a question to ask. When 1.4 is released (Around Halloween) and the server is upgraded will opticraft let the wither be spawned? Because after doing research the only way to obtain a beacon block is through a nether star and the only way to get a nether star is by killing the wither and the only way to get a wither is by spawning it with wither skull heads. So knowing this will the wither be able to be spawned even though it can go on a destructive killing spree?
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That.
I didnt understand.
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That.
I didnt understand.
The only way of obtaining this block (legitimately) is by creating a crazy monster that kills everyone it sees and is really powerful.
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Well i got that but not the nether star or skull heads.
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With each update mojang is making minecraft more and more lame......
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With each update mojang is making minecraft more and more lame......
I agree 100%
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With each update mojang is making minecraft more and more lame......
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Like the Ederdragon, we'd only spawn in the Wither every now and then, since it seems like it tends to destroy blocks not native to its realm, which can constitute to a buttload of missing blocks if players aren't careful.
Come to think of it, I don't think we're spawning the enderdragon anymore, since I haven't heard any word on any recent End Exhibitions...
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They cant brake obsidian so if you make a save room its fine in a controled envirment, maybe u need permission to make one, like thry make an area that alows you to creat the boss, for say a obsiadam room so no harm is done
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There's going to be those few opportunities where people are going to break the obsidian walls out of 'curiosity' and let loose the firestorm that resides within.
Unless of course that area is zoned, I don't think we can control that for very long.
And I do believe that, like the enderdragon, the Wither can go through blocks to reach players. I have not tested that theory out as of yet, so don't quote me on that.
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With each update mojang is making minecraft more and more lame......
You only just realised? It's been happening since 1.7.3 came out.
As to the Wither thingy, I would like to see it, and the Ender Dragon spawned more. Come to think of it, why not make it so the Wither is spawned in the end? There isn't much to break there.
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With each update mojang is making minecraft more and more lame......
You only just realised? It's been happening since 1.7.3 came out.
As to the Wither thingy, I would like to see it, and the Ender Dragon spawned more. Come to think of it, why not make it so the Wither is spawned in the end? There isn't much to break there.
There's more stuff in the end than there is in the nether...
Towns, Enderman farms...
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People really like the End, you know :P
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This isn't the "let's bitch about minecraft updates" topic. Every damn update.. We get it, you don't like it.
For anyone that has seen Nick and Relkeb fireball the market and spawn and that know the wither shoots 3 knows that it won't happen unless under completely controlled circumstances. You should start thinking of ideas and bringing them to Nick and Relkeb if it's something you really want.
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I'm with Nyssa on this. You guys always say the updates are stupid. It makes me dissapointed to see that an admin doesn't like the updates. I see nothing wrong with the updates, they are adding very nice things.
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I hope u guys know that the wither is able to be spawned by the player
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Maybe disable the usage of the player spawning it? Imagine the destruction it would make.
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Guys, this is just a snapshot. Who say we can craft a "The Wither" Spawn Egg in 1.4.1? Maybe they change it when the next snapshot is coming or when 1.4.1 is coming out. I think "The Wither" will get a new structure in The Nether with his Wither Skeletons. We will see it!
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There's also a new painting that shows the creation of the Wither.
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There's also a new painting that shows the creation of the Wither.
Indeed, but there is an bug(?) in the Snapshot that you can't place it yet.
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There's also a new painting that shows the creation of the Wither.
Indeed, but there is an bug(?) in the Snapshot that you can't place it yet.
Oh I didn't know that.
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My idea:
A "wither room"
A bedrock/obsidian official room where the wither can be spawned by the player(a plugin that allows the wither only to be spawned here). This would have a /warp to tp here from the outside.
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Eh... Um... This topic has got a bit out of hand. It's ment to be about spawning the wither, not who / who doesn't like the updates. Lol...
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I thonk ot can only move in zoned areas and e spawned in them, and need to be aproved bya a mod
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Lol spw, true u got it
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Guys, this is just a snapshot. Who say we can craft a "The Wither" Spawn Egg in 1.4.1? Maybe they change it when the next snapshot is coming or when 1.4.1 is coming out. I think "The Wither" will get a new structure in The Nether with his Wither Skeletons. We will see it!
you don't craft the wither spawn egg u make it like a iron golem.
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Wat kind of griefer will take the rime tO grief, the skulls are super rare to get
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If you want a beacon why dont you see if they can add it to the market...for a cery high rate, or hold contests, idk, but what i do know is im tired of seeing people whine about the new updates. I would rather see this game get updated then not at all, and not all things are bad
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Ok, lets get this talked about in some detail.
So this new snapshop features a new boss. The way you get/spawn it is by playing 4 soulsand in a "T" and place the wither heads on the top 3 blocks. You get the heads from killing the mobs, but where does this "wither head" come from? well the new nether mob the Wither skeleton (http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Wither_Skeleton). Wither Skeletons are dangerous hostile mobs that spawn in Nether Fortresses. Wither Skeletons are the Nether equivalent of skeletons. Unlike skeletons, however, Wither Skeletons use stone swords and are over two blocks tall. When hit by a Wither Skeleton, the player may be inflicted with the "Wither" effect for a few seconds, darkening the health bar and further damaging the player while giving the Wither Skeleton a small health boost. When killed, the mob may drop coal and bones, and very rarely drop their skull and the stone sword. So any player right now can easily attain 3 heads and create a Wither Boss (http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Wither).
The Wither is a floating, three-headed, ghostly creature with a skeletal appearance. It is the second boss mob introduced, after the Ender Dragon, and is also a type of "utility mob". When spawned, the Wither will temporarily flash blue and grow larger in size as its health bar fills up. During this state, the Wither is frozen and immune to all damage until its health maxes out. It is recommended for the player to walk away from the Wither to prepare for battle at this point. They can move very fast and shoot out "wither skulls" which destroy blocks, it also like the ender dragon destroys blocks when it collides/flies into them.
This then raises the issue of grief, or potential grief. A trusted player could make one and keep it at of the way, and because it is hostile unless it is attacked the Mobs is 100% safe in your home, but say a guest who gets into your house was to attack it, then the Wither would attack the mobs. The Wither goes after other mobs, like sheep, cows (and possibly players) so it would destroy blocks to make a path to the desired kill. This would create massive about on grief. Now I do believe, that fact that LogBlock records TnT damage, in theory it would record the "wither head" damage. This wouldn't be a problem, but the problem with this this is that if a Mod was very busy they wouldn't be able to help the person for a while. Also if player was killed by the Boss Mob then that just wouldn't work. If every one was create these then the world would be full of these mobs.
Solutions to this could be turn off block damage from the Wither boss, but this could also mean that animals could be killed anyway causing mayhem. We could make it so the Boss does no damage to anything at all but there is still the possibility of the mass spawning of creatures. We could make it so Wither Skeletons don't drop skulls but that might be hard/impossible to do, and also loses the fact some people might want to collect all of the skulls. I think the only solution is to make it not possible to make a Wither Boss.
Love to know your opinions about it and not to do the "TL DR"
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What if trusted+xould only spawn them? Then they get pernisson from an op that it can be contained properly.
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Then if trusteds can only spawn them they will have a monopoly on the nether star market
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Only trusteds can SPAWN them.
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In a zoned area only
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I kinda forgot the whole nether star thing :P The nether star is used to make the beacon Block (previously the "working progress") the block gives you power ups when your how many blocks too close to it. Now people are going to want to build these to gain the power ups but will be impossible unless they can make a Wither and kill it.
Now making it so trusted's can only spawn them just wont work, as I said in my last post. If a trusted made it then someone griefed into their house and attacked it, it would cause too much aggravation. For this reason we cannot entrust them that much. I also think it should be Op+ as the same thing could happen for a Mod which would be no good. So if "no-one" can spawn/make them how do we get a nether star, well we do have the market.
Putting the nether stars on the market could or could not work. Seeing how they are rare they should be priced around the same as PS stones (in theory they are as rare or even rarer than the enderdragon) so it could be around $5ooo. Now the beacon block is very valuable its-self but its base is even more valuable. It's biggest one is built with 164 blocks of diamond, emerald or iron blocks; this raises the problem for high grief. If a player was to enter a world and see this beam they might want to go straight to it knowing there is "a pot of gold at the end of the" beam. Now we can sort that with logblock fine, but some players might get very annoyed because it might get griefed everyday.
Now onto HighRoller's point. If they could spawn it yes, they could make $10k+ on each star but it would be very difficult. Lets say an op gave permission to spawn one. Then the trusted went to attack it, it would basically destroy everything in its path to escape. Now if it was made so they cannot damage blocks it would be easy to make a some-what "Wither spawner" or "slaughter house", then there is also the point a trusted could lie about the permission. Seeing how "no-one" would have nether stars then there would be no sell sign in the market meaning they would be sold all in auctions which has no fixed rate. Seeing how no-one can get them people would pay "anything" to get one making them easily priced high. So HighRoller is correct and I fully agree that it should be at least mod+ to create one.
Altogether I think that Nether stars should be bought and not to make anyone have the ability to create a Wither
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Solutions to this could be turn off block damage from the Wither boss, but this could also mean that animals could be killed anyway causing mayhem. We could make it so the Boss does no damage to anything at all but there is still the possibility of the mass spawning of creatures. We could make it so Wither Skeletons don't drop skulls but that might be hard/impossible to do, and also loses the fact some people might want to collect all of the skulls. I think the only solution is to make it not possible to make a Wither Boss.
Animals have always, and will always, be able to be killed. People warp to your home and kill them. It's going to happen eventually. You calling it mayhem?
Turning off damage is fine. That, I can understand. And possibly make it trusted+ to spawn, so they're not derpy and spawn it right in the open, where they don't have a chance. But removing bits of Minecraft again and again and again is eventually going to start loosing us players.
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another idea:
there is a somewhat worldguard where the only possible place to spawn them is the official /warp witherroom. This is a large contained room made of bedrock. It is also the only spawnable place for a wither. I dont think they can break bedrock.
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But removing bits of Minecraft again and again and again is eventually going to start loosing us players.
To be honest, I think if we have lots of these guys floating about wrecking builds, killing players, player's animals and mobs people would be less likely to return. People would complain about getting killed. A lot.
Then again, it is difficult to obtain the skulls and hopefully they will be spawned infrequently. I think as explosion damage is already disabled it should be fine, but we will just have to see how it plays out once it is released. If too much mayhem is caused, we disable them and use another solution or just let Op+ spawn them (like ender dragons).
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But removing bits of Minecraft again and again and again is eventually going to start loosing us players.
To be honest, I think if we have lots of these guys floating about wrecking builds, killing players, player's animals and mobs people would be less likely to return. People would complain about getting killed. A lot.
Then again, it is difficult to obtain the skulls and hopefully they will be spawned infrequently. I think as explosion damage is already disabled it should be fine, but we will just have to see how it plays out once it is released. If too much mayhem is caused, we disable them and use another solution or just let Op+ spawn them (like ender dragons).
I did plan to suggest that, but Arsenic seems pretty set on having them in the market only. He did mention having it op+, but in the next sentence, said "So if no-one can spawn them".
The only thing I would like to see is them being spawned "fairly" regularly. As in, atleast 3 times a week, and with more ops doing it than just dedly (Well, she was the only person I ever saw spawning a dragon).
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another idea:
there is a somewhat worldguard where the only possible place to spawn them is the official /warp witherroom. This is a large contained room made of bedrock. It is also the only spawnable place for a wither. I dont think they can break bedrock.
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nobody even suggests that they even SAW this idea? ( ._.)
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How about you need to ask them to spawn them, in a room of obsidian that, that player has to make, the op has to deside if its a good place from the to spawn it in tht area so bo miss haps happens
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another idea:
there is a somewhat worldguard where the only possible place to spawn them is the official /warp witherroom. This is a large contained room made of bedrock. It is also the only spawnable place for a wither. I dont think they can break bedrock.
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nobody even suggests that they even SAW this idea? ( ._.)
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SERIOUSLY Ur signature is big and annoying
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SERIOUSLY Ur signature is big and annoying
better?
anyway, like the idea?