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Discussion forum => Legacy => Archives => Suggestions => Topic started by: Chief149 on November 14, 2012, 03:44:42 am

Title: What if we had this:
Post by: Chief149 on November 14, 2012, 03:44:42 am: TNT that explodes, doesn't cause damage to blocks (which would be the case as explosion damage is disabled), and doesn't cause harm to players, BUT causes harm to NPCs.
Title: Re: What if we had this:
Post by: SalsaInABowl on November 14, 2012, 03:49:27 am: Quote from: Chief149 on November 14, 2012, 03:44:42 am
TNT that explodes, doesn't cause damage to blocks (which would be the case as explosion damage is disabled), and doesn't cause harm to players, BUT causes harm to NPCs.

I don't know how much priority this would get on Opticalza's list...but I do like the idea.
Title: Re: What if we had this:
Post by: NathanialJones on November 14, 2012, 03:50:33 am: Umm, why would you need this? Anyway someone may find a way to glitch it. And it doesn't seem very useful.
Title: Re: What if we had this:
Post by: SalsaInABowl on November 14, 2012, 03:53:25 am: Quote from: NathanialJones on November 14, 2012, 03:50:33 am
Umm, why would you need this? Anyway someone may find a way to glitch it. And it doesn't seem very useful.

How is it not useful?

Uses:

1. Mob traps
2. TNT Cannon

And it should probably only affect hostile mobs, just saying. It could be used to slaughter a farm. By the way, you couldn't really glitch this because explosion griefing is turned off.
Title: Re: What if we had this:
Post by: bantam2 on November 14, 2012, 04:06:35 am: To me, this seems like one of the most useless suggestions that I have seen in a while, but I do not want to be on the downside to this suggestion so I will look at it realistically. You want Optical to implement TNT, but remove almost everything that TNT does?

Quote from: SnapeTheSnipe on November 14, 2012, 03:53:25 am
How is it not useful?

Uses:

1. Mob traps
2. TNT Cannon
3. Animal farms

1. Mob Traps? To me that seems like a total waste of TNT just to kill a few mobs on the off chance that they fall into your trap. Their AI now prevents them from falling in holes and such.

2. Isn't the point of a TNT cannon to destroy the target?
Quote from: Chief149 on November 14, 2012, 03:44:42 am
TNT that explodes, doesn't cause damage to blocks

3.
Quote from: SnapeTheSnipe on November 14, 2012, 03:53:25 am
And it should probably only affect hostile mobs, just saying.

Please explain this to me more, as I cannot fully understand your desire for TNT.
Title: Re: What if we had this:
Post by: Chief149 on November 14, 2012, 04:40:15 am: Well the idea sparked when I was in the_end and I was thinking to myself... What if TNT only caused damage to mobs. Not players, not land. We don't want indirect PVP nor grief from TNT, but by god that's a lot of endermen, and some TNT could possibly blow many of them sky high at a time for those ender pearls.

It would also be cool to have the TNT still have a "push" effect so someone could make a cannon that shoots players without killing them XD
Title: Re: What if we had this:
Post by: DeeKay on November 14, 2012, 09:29:20 am: It seems like all suggestions end with this answer from someone, but I'm just being realistic. I don't think this is going to happen, for only one reason.

It's not needed and pretty much pointless.
Title: Re: What if we had this:
Post by: Chief149 on November 14, 2012, 03:39:08 pm: Not pointless. More like fun and useful. Would work well for killing many mobs at a time. Especially enderman in the End world.
Title: Re: What if we had this:
Post by: SalsaInABowl on November 14, 2012, 03:46:21 pm: As much as I would like this, it's not going to get enough priority.
Title: Re: What if we had this:
Post by: ☣2crzy4uall☣ on November 14, 2012, 04:27:19 pm: I have never killed mobs with tnt... ever lol. I've used it to clear out areas, which is useful and fun. But yeah I don't like this lol

"It's tnt that doesn't do anything that tnt is useful for!"
Title: Re: What if we had this:
Post by: zwaan111 on November 14, 2012, 04:30:30 pm: in SP i always use tnt for mining, big chance for ore/cave
Title: Re: What if we had this:
Post by: Xeadin on November 14, 2012, 05:29:12 pm: TNT damaging mobs? Griefers are going to use this to their advantage to kill other player's animals/ mobs.

Don't give griefers an edge, folks.
Title: Re: What if we had this:
Post by: SalsaInABowl on November 14, 2012, 08:57:07 pm: Quote from: Xeadin on November 14, 2012, 05:29:12 pm
TNT damaging mobs? Griefers are going to use this to their advantage to kill other player's animals/ mobs.

Don't give griefers an edge, folks.

It should only affect hostile mobs if its even going to be implemented.
Title: Re: What if we had this:
Post by: Firuzzy_Llama on November 14, 2012, 09:00:45 pm: It would then be possible to make a TNT cannon and kill somones animals, and making it only for hostile mobs would be incredibly hard to program wouldn't it? And whats the point in that anyway? Might as well make a piston trap that pushes mobs off the Edge
Title: Re: What if we had this:
Post by: YangusTheGreat on November 21, 2012, 08:08:51 pm: It would be fun...

But I don't know if it would be allowed...
Title: Re: What if we had this:
Post by: zwaan111 on November 21, 2012, 09:02:43 pm: to use this to kill hostile mobs would be just a waste of materials. There are way easier ways to kill hostile mobs, like lava.

so no
Title: Re: What if we had this:
Post by: Chief149 on November 21, 2012, 10:14:10 pm: Quote from: zwaan111 on November 21, 2012, 09:02:43 pm
to use this to kill hostile mobs would be just a waste of materials. There are way easier ways to kill hostile mobs, like lava.

so no

Lava is disabled unless you're a mod+
Title: Re: What if we had this:
Post by: ComputerGameLPer on November 22, 2012, 04:06:12 am: Quote from: Chief149 on November 21, 2012, 10:14:10 pm
Quote from: zwaan111 on November 21, 2012, 09:02:43 pm
to use this to kill hostile mobs would be just a waste of materials. There are way easier ways to kill hostile mobs, like lava.

so no

Lava is disabled unless you're a mod+

I'm not mod+ and I own Lava City, I still get allowed to lava when I ASK
Title: Re: What if we had this:
Post by: Xeadin on November 22, 2012, 04:38:43 am: That's only mods and above placing the lava and entrusting its placement to you-- you're still not placing it yourself, so chief's statement still stands.
Title: Re: What if we had this:
Post by: Selkon_Hunter on November 22, 2012, 05:16:21 am: Tell ya what, Chief. You program the pluggin for this amazing and incredibly pointless entertainment/art form, and optical may, if he's willing to (unlikely), consider adding it. If you could also program it so that people don't use more than a few blocks at a time so that a griefer doesn't cause massive lagspikes, that would be great.

I apologize for my sarcasm, but I'm having trouble keeping a straight face over this one.
Title: Re: What if we had this:
Post by: zwaan111 on November 22, 2012, 05:37:27 am: then just use a damm sword to kill the animals
Title: Re: What if we had this:
Post by: FNVcourierjon(SigilStone) on November 22, 2012, 02:28:05 pm: This is pointless because we have enchanted swords and bows. Also zwaan it's damn not damm.
Title: Re: What if we had this:
Post by: iGenerator on November 22, 2012, 03:35:51 pm: Its way too complicated
Title: Re: What if we had this:
Post by: CazualxGrenade on November 22, 2012, 03:49:49 pm: No way this will be implemented. As others have said in this topic, it would be a waste of Gunpowder. I'll give a few reasons why this wouldn't be good.

1.) Too much used can lag the server. No doubt it would even lag you out.
2.) It can be used to get revenge, say someone had some animals, and someone wanted to kill them, they can rig up that cannon and fire it at the mobs, thus complaining with animals being destroyed.
3.) As I agree with other people, it is pointless. you can just use potions, and/or just a damn enchanted sword to kill it. Otherwise , it would may be complicated to make, as TNT affects YOU as a player on the server, but not only kill you if you were afar from home.
Title: Re: What if we had this:
Post by: Dagony(Nima_ilz) on November 23, 2012, 10:10:41 am: Why not make TNT so i can't be go off at all.Changing it into non-active blocks like in classis
Title: Re: What if we had this:
Post by: DeeKay on November 23, 2012, 02:09:12 pm: Quote from: Dagony(Nima_ilz) on November 23, 2012, 10:10:41 am
Why not make TNT so i can't be go off at all.Changing it into non-active blocks like in classis
What are you talking about, have you even read the suggestion? TnT is already a 'non-active' block, as it doesn't explode upon lighting it.
Title: Re: What if we had this:
Post by: mcoon1 on November 23, 2012, 06:53:33 pm: Quote from: CazualxGrenade on November 22, 2012, 03:49:49 pm
No way this will be implemented. As others have said in this topic, it would be a waste of Gunpowder.

Besides splash potions, what in God's name are you using your gunpowder for that makes you so afraid to waste it? I have a TON that I can't use for anything. I really like the idea of making TNT an inactive block, in the sense that we would be allowed to place it, but it would never go off.
Title: Re: What if we had this:
Post by: Xeadin on November 23, 2012, 07:34:42 pm: Quote from: mcoon1 on November 23, 2012, 06:53:33 pm
Besides splash potions, what in God's name are you using your gunpowder for that makes you so afraid to waste it? I have a TON that I can't use for anything. I really like the idea of making TNT an inactive block, in the sense that we would be allowed to place it, but it would never go off.

As in a decorative block? That would make sense.
Title: Re: What if we had this:
Post by: ☣2crzy4uall☣ on November 23, 2012, 07:37:23 pm: Yeah I think it would be ok as a decorative block, but as far as exploding at all, meh I don't think so.
Title: Re: What if we had this:
Post by: DeeKay on November 24, 2012, 03:24:26 am: I know there's bound to be someone that uses it as a decorative block, but really, who's honestly going to use it and think it looks good with anything?
Title: Re: What if we had this:
Post by: Saeberus on November 24, 2012, 03:38:01 am: The thing I think we should think about is the priority level of these suggestions. Most players are already complaining about pvp which is not an easy addition. Something small like this would be nice but wouldn't make as many players content.
Title: Re: What if we had this:
Post by: Nick3306 on November 25, 2012, 11:12:25 pm: What if we didnt have this?
Title: Re: What if we had this:
Post by: cschurz on November 26, 2012, 12:32:20 am: Quote from: Nick3306 on November 25, 2012, 11:12:25 pm
What if we didnt have this?

expect a knock on your door from chief149
Title: Re: What if we had this:
Post by: Chipaton on November 26, 2012, 01:02:44 am: Quote from: cschurz on November 26, 2012, 12:32:20 am
Quote from: Nick3306 on November 25, 2012, 11:12:25 pm
What if we didnt have this?

expect a knock on your door from chief149
"Do you know what the benefits of having this are? How about I tell you, why you should get this!"