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Title: probably gonna regret this but... add an item to the market?
Post by: tiggy26668 on January 09, 2013, 10:17:50 pm
so, after i get yelled at for:
1)"we don't need more blocks in the market"
2)"it's not obtainable, this is survival"
3)"the server isn't about building"

I hope this can get considered seriously...

I discovered this interesting block that apparently most people aren't aware of.
it can only be obtained via the /give or similar command, and is block id 44:7
Basically it's just a stone half slab.
But this particular half slab has a special attribute to it.
instead of connecting in the usual line through the middle way, it more so resembles an iron block with a stone texture.

this block is one of the coolest things I've found and is just sitting there with tons of building potential being underutilized
and is there really any harm in adding a block that has no destructive power, it's no worse than the mob heads.....

here's what it looks like compared to the normal one:
(click to show/hide)

discuss.
Title: Re: probably gonna regret this but... add an item to the market?
Post by: clawstrider on January 09, 2013, 10:19:32 pm
I've asked for this many times before, I really like it. I wasn't aware you could use /give to get it, I'd always been using world edit (I believe its halfslab:5)
Title: Re: probably gonna regret this but... add an item to the market?
Post by: Nick3306 on January 09, 2013, 10:26:41 pm
Adding this shouldnt be a problem.
Title: Re: probably gonna regret this but... add an item to the market?
Post by: Mr_Mr_Mr on January 09, 2013, 10:49:11 pm
I've always wanted this block, it looks nice for some occasions.
Title: Re: probably gonna regret this but... add an item to the market?
Post by: ☣2crzy4uall☣ on January 09, 2013, 11:39:10 pm
Quote from: Nick3306 on January 09, 2013, 10:26:41 pm
Adding this shouldnt be a problem.

Yes please :)
Title: Re: probably gonna regret this but... add an item to the market?
Post by: RuthlessTomato on January 10, 2013, 12:46:22 am
There is a way to get it legitly. I think you need 10 pistons, lava, water, and a specific time of day as well as facing the correct cardinal direction. I tried it, but this was in 1.2.5 on a single player world.
Title: Re: probably gonna regret this but... add an item to the market?
Post by: SalsaInABowl on January 10, 2013, 01:05:03 am
Quote from: That Goalie Guy. on January 10, 2013, 12:46:22 am
There is a way to get it legitly. I think you need 10 pistons, lava, water, and a specific time of day as well as facing the correct cardinal direction. I tried it, but this was in 1.2.5 on a single player world.

Doesn't sound legit XD

I would love to see the implementation of this block.
Title: Re: probably gonna regret this but... add an item to the market?
Post by: iGenerator on January 10, 2013, 01:14:46 am
I am gonna bank off of this idea by adding the other kinds of steps as well, right now you can only buy nether stairs from the market

EDIT:I noticed these discrepancies in the two guest world markets
(http://www.opticraft.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1137.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fn512%2FJoe_SavedTheDay%2F2013-01-09_203907.png%3Ft%3D1357785714&hash=a033a851c52e068d4e31491efbd774c7)
(http://www.opticraft.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1137.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fn512%2FJoe_SavedTheDay%2F2013-01-09_203936.png%3Ft%3D1357785711&hash=4e0f0fe58f442fa0d1dafaaf71160f3e)
(http://www.opticraft.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1137.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fn512%2FJoe_SavedTheDay%2F2013-01-09_204039.png%3Ft%3D1357785714&hash=504293cf2779146eaf6c63b546d979a2) (http://www.opticraft.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1137.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fn512%2FJoe_SavedTheDay%2F2013-01-09_203946.png%3Ft%3D1357785709&hash=50f43cfaadb5a811af7cba531072645c)
Title: Re: probably gonna regret this but... add an item to the market?
Post by: RuthlessTomato on January 10, 2013, 02:07:59 am
Quote from: iGenerator on January 10, 2013, 01:14:46 am
I am gonna bank off of this idea by adding the other kinds of steps as well, right now you can only buy nether stairs from the market
In 1.5 you can smelt netherack into nether brick 
.
Title: Re: probably gonna regret this but... add an item to the market?
Post by: SalsaInABowl on January 10, 2013, 02:10:52 am
Sometimes it's nicknamed the "seamless double slab"
Title: Re: probably gonna regret this but... add an item to the market?
Post by: joshskiizz on January 10, 2013, 03:33:50 am
These blocks have so much potential to make awesome things. I support this suggestion. :3
Title: Re: probably gonna regret this but... add an item to the market?
Post by: Nhataley on January 10, 2013, 03:46:23 am
I also Support this =)
Title: Re: probably gonna regret this but... add an item to the market?
Post by: Nick3306 on January 10, 2013, 06:11:11 am
I'll add this when i get home from work tomorrow.
Title: Re: probably gonna regret this but... add an item to the market?
Post by: zwaan111 on January 10, 2013, 01:19:01 pm
yay   :D
Title: Re: probably gonna regret this but... add an item to the market?
Post by: RuthlessTomato on January 11, 2013, 12:01:02 am
short lived. In 13w02a they remove this block.
Title: Re: probably gonna regret this but... add an item to the market?
Post by: ▲▼Dunderheid▼▲ on January 11, 2013, 12:09:36 am
Quote from: That Goalie Guy. on January 11, 2013, 12:01:02 am
short lived. In 13w02a they remove this block.
Poop
Title: Re: probably gonna regret this but... add an item to the market?
Post by: tiggy26668 on January 11, 2013, 12:48:56 am
Quote from: That Goalie Guy. on January 11, 2013, 12:01:02 am
short lived. In 13w02a they remove this block.

well that blows, i was really looking forward to using it >.<

oh well it seems 44:7 is going to become the quarts slab, though tbh i wouldn't mind having those added in anyway.

if anyone's curious what the quarts slabs/block look like it's this:
(click to show/hide)

this really is a shame, it would've been a nice cheap alternative to iron blocks, maybe we'll get lucky and they'll add them back in for the official release
Title: Re: probably gonna regret this but... add an item to the market?
Post by: Nhataley on January 11, 2013, 04:48:27 am
I also wanted to use that block :/

Oh well The Nether Quats Look fantastic as well =)
Title: Re: probably gonna regret this but... add an item to the market?
Post by: Mr_Mr_Mr on January 11, 2013, 11:54:52 pm
Quote from: tiggy26668 on January 11, 2013, 12:48:56 am
Quote from: That Goalie Guy. on January 11, 2013, 12:01:02 am
short lived. In 13w02a they remove this block.

well that blows, i was really looking forward to using it >.<

oh well it seems 44:7 is going to become the quarts slab, though tbh i wouldn't mind having those added in anyway.

if anyone's curious what the quarts slabs/block look like it's this:
(click to show/hide)

this really is a shame, it would've been a nice cheap alternative to iron blocks, maybe we'll get lucky and they'll add them back in for the official release
They look like iron blocks.
Title: Re: probably gonna regret this but... add an item to the market?
Post by: LIEKABOWSE on January 15, 2013, 02:49:40 am
the doubleslab block tiggy was talking about seems like its just going to be 43:8. thats what they did with netherbrick slab blocks
Title: Re: probably gonna regret this but... add an item to the market?
Post by: bantam2 on January 15, 2013, 06:44:23 am
The block that you want to add to the market has already changed. I had some placed in metropolis but now they are nether bricks. I wish they didn't change it
Title: Re: probably gonna regret this but... add an item to the market?
Post by: tiggy26668 on January 15, 2013, 08:34:24 pm
Quote from: bantam2 on January 15, 2013, 06:44:23 am
The block that you want to add to the market has already changed. I had some placed in metropolis but now they are nether bricks. I wish they didn't change it

actually in the current release (1.4.7?) they're still obtainable.

my guess is you obtained them before nether brick slabs were introduced, at that time they had a different block id think it was 44:6 and since they added those it got bumped to 44:7 and nether brick took over 44:6

unfortunately with 1.5 they're revamping the way blocks work, used to be one big sprite sheet for everything now each block will have it's own, and this seems to do away with the block for good since it hasn't been recreated as of snapshot 12w02a...

im still hopeful that they might add it back in, however unlikely it may be.....
Title: Re: probably gonna regret this but... add an item to the market?
Post by: clawstrider on January 15, 2013, 10:24:02 pm
Quote from: tiggy26668 on January 15, 2013, 08:34:24 pm
Quote from: bantam2 on January 15, 2013, 06:44:23 am
The block that you want to add to the market has already changed. I had some placed in metropolis but now they are nether bricks. I wish they didn't change it

actually in the current release (1.4.7?) they're still obtainable.

my guess is you obtained them before nether brick slabs were introduced, at that time they had a different block id think it was 44:6 and since they added those it got bumped to 44:7 and nether brick took over 44:6

unfortunately with 1.5 they're revamping the way blocks work, used to be one big sprite sheet for everything now each block will have it's own, and this seems to do away with the block for good since it hasn't been recreated as of snapshot 12w02a...

im still hopeful that they might add it back in, however unlikely it may be.....

I guess you'll just have to spam Jeb's twitter and hope...
Title: Re: probably gonna regret this but... add an item to the market?
Post by: gavin1928374655 on January 15, 2013, 11:10:09 pm
Quote from: That Goalie Guy. on January 11, 2013, 12:01:02 am
short lived. In 13w02a they remove this block.
yeah it now has the same id as the nether brick half slab, also it has been known to cause certain problems (dont ask me why :P) so instead of fixing it, they took the easy way out and made it unobtainable with crafting
Title: Re: probably gonna regret this but... add an item to the market?
Post by: zwaan111 on January 16, 2013, 09:07:22 pm
is this topic now about an unobtainable blox which id is the same as nether brix slabs :P

sounds kinda useless to meh

Title: Re: probably gonna regret this but... add an item to the market?
Post by: tiggy26668 on January 17, 2013, 02:19:16 am
Quote from: zwaan111 on January 16, 2013, 09:07:22 pm
is this topic now about an unobtainable blox which id is the same as nether brix slabs :P

sounds kinda useless to meh



actually it's about a block that is obtainable at the moment, but will be unobtainable come 1.5

so it is kinda useful...... till 1.5.... at which point it probably wont be very useful  :P
Title: Re: probably gonna regret this but... add an item to the market?
Post by: RuthlessTomato on January 17, 2013, 03:24:07 am
Yea. Bbut quartz blocks will be awesome.
Title: Re: probably gonna regret this but... add an item to the market?
Post by: OzzyKP on January 22, 2013, 10:59:52 pm
From Jeb:
Quote
Just posting this to get the word out...

The "smooth full half-slab", that once was 43:6 and then 43:7, is now 43:8 and will remain so. The block is (from my perspective at least) a bug, but I realize it is a very popular one so that's why we're adding this special case.

What the code does now is that if the top bit is set (data values from 8 to 15), the full half-slab will pick the top texture for all 6 sides. This also means there's a smooth sandstone block (43:9). Other variants either already use the top texture (such as for quartz), or don't have a special top texture (such as for bricks).


http://www.reddit.com/r/Minecraft/comments/1722hf/the_smooth_full_halfslab_will_become_438/
Title: Re: probably gonna regret this but... add an item to the market?
Post by: RuthlessTomato on January 23, 2013, 12:23:58 am
Yay! In my friends server i am an admin. Its fun to freak the **** out of people with a block they cannot replicate.
Title: Re: probably gonna regret this but... add an item to the market?
Post by: tiggy26668 on January 23, 2013, 01:08:43 am
Quote from: OzzyKP on January 22, 2013, 10:59:52 pm
From Jeb:
Quote
Just posting this to get the word out...

The "smooth full half-slab", that once was 43:6 and then 43:7, is now 43:8 and will remain so. The block is (from my perspective at least) a bug, but I realize it is a very popular one so that's why we're adding this special case.

What the code does now is that if the top bit is set (data values from 8 to 15), the full half-slab will pick the top texture for all 6 sides. This also means there's a smooth sandstone block (43:9). Other variants either already use the top texture (such as for quartz), or don't have a special top texture (such as for bricks).


http://www.reddit.com/r/Minecraft/comments/1722hf/the_smooth_full_halfslab_will_become_438/

that is awesome news, so i guess this post is valid again  ;D

of course we now need to wait for 1.5 but that's not a big deal.

since we're at it, apparently this type of block will be available for some of the other half slabs as well. after some testing to figure out which ones are actually different lets consider adding them as well?
Title: Re: probably gonna regret this but... add an item to the market?
Post by: OzzyKP on January 23, 2013, 01:14:49 am
Sounds good to me.  Add them all.
Title: Re: probably gonna regret this but... add an item to the market?
Post by: caseyboy123 on January 31, 2013, 07:14:48 am
Never seen or heard of a single one of these blocks.  Wtf is this?
Title: Re: probably gonna regret this but... add an item to the market?
Post by: Xeadin on January 31, 2013, 07:21:00 am
I take it someone hasn't been keeping themselves up-to-date with the recent snapshots
Title: Re: probably gonna regret this but... add an item to the market?
Post by: crippnfoot on January 31, 2013, 12:06:35 pm
I have been waiting for this block for as long as i have played Minecraft. I love to build with stone but after making the stone building the "stone slabs" throw off the hole look or they take the attention away from what you are trying to show. I think a real Half stone piece would be fantastic to build with i really hope this is implemented.