Opticraft Community
Discussion forum => Legacy => Archives => Suggestions => Topic started by: Mattkkk12345 on August 09, 2013, 07:57:32 pm
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Now for me at the moment because i joined this server i love it as it is but for others (people not on the server) the latest craze is PVP (we have) survival games and mob arenas etc.
Recently there has been small talk of less numbers of people on the server which yes i have noticed. I barely see new players. Some leave but just the same faces on the server.
Mr_Mr_Mr has pointed out the voting problem and if you havent read his post on voting then read it now because many cheat and click vote then just close and it gives you diamonds. This is noticiable that manu are doing this cheat and we need to actually vote to get the player up the list and get more players on.
Its great that we have PVP now but its fair to say its been quite long awaited. We need more changes like this but sooner as mentioned above ( Survival Games or mob arena or something) perhaps a new thing that happens once a week then goes like a weekly minigame. We just need things to tempt people to type in SMP.OPTICRAFT.NET.
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Yey! now we have pvp:
Here are some improvements that i think should happen.
* There should be perhaps a simple glass platform above the areana for spectators so it gives players to see whats going on rather than mods just flying up and seeing
* HERES A KEY DIFFERENCE: Instead of having the hard to find signs to get out we need the /home command to be allowed but YOU CAN ONLY USE IT AFTER 10 SECONDS. I.E if you type /home it says stand still and wait 10 seconds but if someone hits you it says cancelled. This is a plugin that you can find on Bukkit Pluggins.
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If some of these changes can happen and especially the voting problem pointed out by Mr_Mr_Mr then i hope we see more players join in and once again getting more and more players so that the server can keep going. Also to keep newbies on the server we should have as i said above new minigames perhaps once a week or something.
Thanks and keep in mind these improvements
-Mattkkk12345 ;) ;)
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We don't have anybody to code this. I feel like a broken record at this point....
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We don't have anybody to code this. I feel like a broken record at this point....
Just make it your signature so everyone will see it :p
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Broken record? and why do you have to code it. All the pluggins apart from the Opticraft Pluggin are Bukkit Pluggins. I dont get it just add those like some of the others like logblock etc
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Go To bukkit pluggins download and place in pluggins folder... i dont understand why everything has to be coded.
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Make what my signature raul??
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Broken record? and why do you have to code it. All the pluggins apart from the Opticraft Pluggin are Bukkit Pluggins. I dont get it just add those like some of the others like logblock etc
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Go To bukkit pluggins download and place in pluggins folder... i dont understand why everything has to be coded.
You obviously have no idea how putting plugins on the server works/affects the aerver.
We have to code it because our warp signs plugin (which opti made) doesnt allow for me to do that.
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Oh well thats annoying, why did we code it in the first place???
If we just use a warp plugin from bukkit then we could get all the other pluggins . Thats annoying and a shame.
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Oh well thats annoying, why did we code it in the first place???
If we just use a warp plugin from bukkit then we could get all the other pluggins . Thats annoying and a shame.
Opti doesnt like using other plugins though, in case of back doors.
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Oh well thats annoying, why did we code it in the first place???
If we just use a warp plugin from bukkit then we could get all the other pluggins . Thats annoying and a shame.
The warp plugin we used to use was really buggy so optical made his own, thats how it works and that is how it will work.
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Loopholes, glitches, duping, stealing, all of that can happen if you just dowlnoad plugins from the bukkit page. Dejected/cschurz (our developer) has practically dissapeared, so only Opti himself codes the plugins. I haven't the slightest idea of what he's working on as of now, but I'm sure he's working his butt off to monitor everything and add new fearures like bug fixes.
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Well, there was some code done to the opticraft plugin to stop the /home plugin from being used in the pvp arenas. Same with the /warp and other plugins.
Instead of blocking, just use the bukkit scheduler to perform the teleport ten seconds later, and send the message, "You will be teleported in 10 seconds"
Afterall, if someone is using /home to escape someone else, surely 10 seconds would be enough time for them to be killed before they can teleport.
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I've had people only live from me cause of the middle sign.
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Well, there was some code done to the opticraft plugin to stop the /home plugin from being used in the pvp arenas. Same with the /warp and other plugins..
Nope, I was able to achieve that by blocking the commands with a worldguard flag. No coding needed.
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Ok. Everyone who says opti should be moving faster or coding this and that.
remember. The guy is I'm guessing between twenty one and twenty six. He has other stuff in life then minecraft. He cant dedicate all his time to this stuff. I understand you want updates. I get that change is good sometimes. But remember this is a game. A dying game at that. Accept that the server wont evolve as fast as most. But with that somewhat negative comes the biggest positive. Look at the players the server has kept for the entire time it has. Thats rare in any server other than this one. If you dont like it go join the massive servers where you will without doubt be just another number. Its the difference between living in NYC and a small farm town.
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Well, there was some code done to the opticraft plugin to stop the /home plugin from being used in the pvp arenas. Same with the /warp and other plugins.
Instead of blocking, just use the bukkit scheduler to perform the teleport ten seconds later, and send the message, "You will be teleported in 10 seconds"
Afterall, if someone is using /home to escape someone else, surely 10 seconds would be enough time for them to be killed before they can teleport.
Cheif thats my point yes people will die but its easier for people out of combat than finding the signs especially in the jungle. I havent even found that one yet lol.
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Well, there was some code done to the opticraft plugin to stop the /home plugin from being used in the pvp arenas. Same with the /warp and other plugins.
Instead of blocking, just use the bukkit scheduler to perform the teleport ten seconds later, and send the message, "You will be teleported in 10 seconds"
Afterall, if someone is using /home to escape someone else, surely 10 seconds would be enough time for them to be killed before they can teleport.
Cheif thats my point yes people will die but its easier for people out of combat than finding the signs especially in the jungle. I havent even found that one yet lol.
I do agree that it's a little hard to find the warp signs, but the /home thing isn't needed. Placing the signs in more prominent locations would work just as well.
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I do agree that it's a little hard to find the warp signs, but the /home thing isn't needed. Placing the signs in more prominent locations would work just as well.
Once you have found the sign/s once I doubt you'd forget where it is, on most the maps I don't think you can get more prominent then the middle of a map of a visible location. It isn't really necessary and from what I've seen the past few days there isn't a problem with the current system for what we have.
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Beggars cant be choosers. You guys wanted PVP and we worked hard to do it the best way we possibly could.
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We don't have anybody to code this. I feel like a broken record at this point....
We need a new dev. Optical has got to have a few friends that would help, right?
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I'm just gonna lay this here, and I'm not bashing the staff intentionally or because "they suck" or "they are mean". However, a vast majority of our players have left because of certain staff members. I think some of the rules should be re-thought with a bit more thought to those rules. If we rethink the rules with more common sense put in to them, I think we can easily regain players. Just my two cents.
offtopic edit: 400th post :D
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I'm just gonna lay this here, and I'm not bashing the staff intentionally or because "they suck" or "they are mean". However, a vast majority of our players have left because of certain staff members. I think some of the rules should be re-thought with a bit more thought to those rules. If we rethink the rules with more common sense put in to them, I think we can easily regain players. Just my two cents.
I would love to see your evidence of this. I can believe a few players here or there but a vast majority?
Also, saying we should rethink the rules is extremely vague and offers no insight on to what you are actually talking about.
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I'm just gonna lay this here, and I'm not bashing the staff intentionally or because "they suck" or "they are mean". However, a vast majority of our players have left because of certain staff members. I think some of the rules should be re-thought with a bit more thought to those rules. If we rethink the rules with more common sense put in to them, I think we can easily regain players. Just my two cents.
I would love to see your evidence of this. I can believe a few players here or there but a vast majority?
Also, saying we should rethink the rules is extremely vague and offers no insight on to what you are actually talking about.
Let me take a few for example (rules)
No mods rule. Simply insane. Why point us to how we have to play the game, instead of allowing us on how we want to play. Now, I understand that xray and other hacks are unacceptable, and I agree on that. However, not allowing us to use Shaders, Reis, even singleplayer mods we can't use on the server we are forced to uninstall or we get banned.
*Not really a rule* Disrespecting staff members. Now, if a player uses vulgar language, that's different. If a player targets more than a few staff members it's reasonable. However getting banned for disrespecting one staff member is just plain wrong. I don't understand this rule at all.
That is my two cents on the rules.
Now, on to the staff. Again, not using names.
Ever since the past few app sessions, I think people have been getting modded for some of the most stupid reasons. Immaturity, sure, I understand why mature people have a better chance at getting it. However, just because the staff dislikes a certain person, why not mod them? Being a moderator doesnt contribute to being friends with staff but to help out the server. I think they should be modded for kinds of reasons such as play time, previous expierence and the amount of time they are on average.
That's my two cents. Feel free to yell at me if you have a good reason to do so.
*edit: correcting a grammar issue
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Let me take a few for example (rules)
No mods rule. Simply insane. Why point us to how we have to play the game, instead of forcing us on how we have to play. Now, I understand that xray and other hacks are unacceptable, and I agree on that. However, not allowing us to use Shaders, Reis, even singleplayer mods we can't use on the server we are forced to uninstall or we get banned.
Because it is just a no mods rule. We can't possibly list all the mods people could use so in order to avoid the "I had no idea this mod wasnt allowed" argument we banned all mods. A lot of thought was put into that rule and it will stay that way.
*Not really a rule* Disrespecting staff members. Now, if a player uses vulgar language, that's different. If a player targets more than a few staff members it's reasonable. However getting banned for disrespecting one staff member is just plain wrong. I don't understand this rule at all.
I would like an example of what you are talking about here. Disrespecting staff is doing things like arguing with them over them telling you not to do something. Or still doing something after being told not to. Warnings are supposed to be given out but for repeat offenders all you can do is ban them to try to teach them a lesson.
Now, on to the staff. Again, not using names.
Ever since the past few app sessions, I think people have been getting modded for some of the most stupid reasons. Immaturity, sure, I understand why mature people have a better chance at getting it. However, just because the staff dislikes a certain person, why not mod them? Being a moderator doesnt contribute to being friends with staff but to help out the server. I think they should be modded for kinds of reasons such as play time, previous expierence and the amount of time they are on average.
That's my two cents. Feel free to yell at me if you have a good reason to do so.
This is a losing argument simply because you do not know the reasons I reject mod apps. What this complaint comes down to is you basically saying you don't think I am choosing the right mods because I am not choosing who you think I should.
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woah woah woah lets not fight over a few pvp suggestions all we need to do to make the server alive is to vote and tell friends. if you tell 5-10 friends thats a lot more people who could be on.
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Also, tell all your friends about minecraft and how awesome this server is. I mean the friends who don't play mc yet, so that they haven't gotten into raid servers and hunger games etc. I've found that an Irl friend who is new to minecraft is more likely to stay on the server.
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woah woah woah lets not fight over a few pvp suggestions all we need to do to make the server alive is to vote and tell friends. if you tell 5-10 friends thats a lot more people who could be on.
Not a fight, It's a conversation.
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Well this thread has become extremely bitter. I think we should all sit down for a second and be thankful we actually got pvp in the end, and how well it was done considering the amount of resources there were to make it.
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Alright, I lost the argument. Enough said, back ontopic.
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I don't see a need for more players. This is clearly a community server, however, we still get a healthy amount of new players joining us every month. As Mike put it best with his city/rural example, we're very much different from other servers. Honestly, most of the suggestions are all based off the same need. They need someone to code it. We have no one to do that. We have to make the best of what we got. Suggestions that are beyond guidelines and certain permissions at this point seem worthless, they won't make much effect, just another topic for a discussion with no outcome. I'd rather see familiar faces then ones that come and go.
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I don't see a need for more players. This is clearly a community server, however, we still get a healthy amount of new players joining us every month. As Mike put it best with his city/rural example, we're very much different from other servers. Honestly, most of the suggestions are all based off the same need. They need someone to code it. We have no one to do that. We have to make the best of what we got. Suggestions that are beyond guidelines and certain permissions at this point seem worthless, they won't make much effect, just another topic for a discussion with no outcome. I'd rather see familiar faces then ones that come and go.
I 100% agree with you josh the server has lot's of great fellas, But if anyone on the server wants to see more people then just keep the votes going and talk to real people. This forum really has nothing more to say. josh 399 posts lol congratz on 400 in probs like 2 mins
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I think we could remain a community server even if the server population doubled.
Anyways, being as the problem with "improvements" is lack of devs, why not make developer applications? See who makes an app, and see who of those people would have potential to be a developer here.
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I think we could remain a community server even if the server population doubled.
Anyways, being as the problem with "improvements" is lack of devs, why not make developer applications? See who makes an app, and see who of those people would have potential to be a developer here.
Because it doesn't work like that....
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I think we could remain a community server even if the server population doubled.
Anyways, being as the problem with "improvements" is lack of devs, why not make developer applications? See who makes an app, and see who of those people would have potential to be a developer here.
anyone with good coding and bad intentions could destroy the server
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Yes and, Since Opticraft has unique code, it could be stolen and claimed as someone's elses.
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That is why there's apps. The apps would prove who can code and who can't, and staff could try to determine someone who could be trusted with the plugin code.
But yeah, developer with bad intentions = bad.
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That is why there's apps. The apps would prove who can code and who can't, and staff could try to determine someone who could be trusted with the plugin code.
But yeah, developer with bad intentions = bad.
Only 2 people are trusted with the code. If they were to be trusted that much, they would be either a person who's been on the server extremely long, or Admin.(Plus they need to code somewhat well.)
Apps are bad because what you say over the internet could be completely different from what they think.
Developer with bad intentions = Bad.
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I don't think that's the point. If it was up to me, I would personally want a developer that I know and trust. I'm not just going to hire someone and risk many things over a developer. As nice as it would be to have one, we're not desperate for one.
Edit: I should clarify I meant to say an active dev.
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The only people trusted to code would be the admins, none of which can code (as far as i know)