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Discussion forum => Classic => Archives => General Discussion => Topic started by: clawstrider on July 30, 2011, 12:23:24 pm
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There has been some confusion about the rule of mini modding.
Do Not Mini-Moderate. Mini modding is when you see a thread, or a persons post, that you do not like, and say "You can't do that, stop it now, or a mod will get you," or "This post belongs to the -soandso- thread." Do not say things like "lock it" or "this already exists" either. Moderators are perfectly capable of their job, and do not need any of the forum member's help. If you see a problem, just ignore it, and a Moderator will soon be there to fix it.
This is what the rule of mini modding says. My problem is that I have seen many builders and recruits try to be helpful, such as letting somebody know they have to be a recruit before applying for builder, being threatened with a ban if they continue this.
Is that really what this rule is about?
I understand that if somebody wrote something along the lines above it could have a negative influence, but being helpful just makes an op's task easier. It's one less message we have to type "You have to be recruit before builder," (That was just an example).
Can we make the rules clearer, either by writing that they cannot give advice, or they can?
Thanks
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I shall delete all my irrelevant posts about mini-modding. Sorry for the troubles.
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I shall delete all my irrelevant posts about mini-modding. Sorry for the troubles.
It is not just you, don't delete them, but I would like a revision of that rule. It is not clear.
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I shall delete all my irrelevant posts about mini-modding. Sorry for the troubles.
It is not just you, don't delete them, but I would like a revision of that rule. It is not clear.
I really regret it... I hope no one has been hurt.. Especially BMWGT3...
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I feel that the mini modding rule should be removed.
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the only thing about mine modding is I sure hope people can mini mod about griefing.
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Rule is pretty much unnecessary in my opinion. If someone is getting annoying because he is sticking his nose everywhere, just tell him to stop.
Most of the time people are just being helpful and getting threatened with sanctions because of that. I do believe it is only a positive thing that the people in Opticraft community help each other out themselves without any Operator intervention.
If you decide to not remove the rule, then make a CLEAR line between being helpful and mini moderating so that people do not get confused.
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I feel that the mini modding rule should be removed.
This, I find it concerning that builders are getting yelled at for being helpful.
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I feel that the mini modding rule should be removed.
This, I find it concerning that builders are getting yelled at for being helpful.
Which is exactly what drove me to make this topic.
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Look guys I'm sorry I mini-modded. Can you stop making a big deal out of it now? :(
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Look guys I'm sorry I mini-modded. Can you stop making a big deal out of it now? :(
As far as I am concerned, you did not mini mod. That is why this issue needs to be addressed so that the difference between being helpful and mini modding becomes clear. You're not the only reason this thread was created.
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Look guys I'm sorry I mini-modded. Can you stop making a big deal out of it now? :(
You obviously did not read the whole thread.
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As far as im aware there is no mini-modding rule. Only rules in /rules and the rules topic original post are official rules. Relkeb or mort please correct or confirm this.
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As far as im aware there is no mini-modding rule. Only rules in /rules and the rules topic original post are official rules. Relkeb or mort please correct or confirm this.
3rd post in the rules topic under server news. Paul added it.
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And it has been there quite a while...
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Yep. We'll see what morten or Relkeb say about it. Personally i do not like it for ingame, people take it to the extreme where being helpful to others is considered mini-modding - which its not.
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Yep. We'll see what morten or Relkeb say about it. Personally i do not like it for ingame, people take it to the extreme where being helpful to others is considered mini-modding - which its not.
And mini modding is only for forums... Right?
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I never actually quite understood why paul even wrote a rule in the first place.
There is no mini-modding rule... nor is there a "backseat" modding rule. That being said, don't feel as though you can go around and do the work of a moderator.
If you think someone is acting like a mod, simply tell them politely to stop, or tell an admin.
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So there we go. Thanks Relkeb :) It seems that operators from now on should not throw the (Now non-existant) Mini-modding rule at helpful players.
Topic sorted.
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Thats the problem though. A lot of the time builders and recruit are not helpful when they 'mini mod'
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Thats the problem though. A lot of the time builders and recruit are not helpful when they 'mini mod'
Then you simply tell them politely to refrain from doing so.
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Thats the problem though. A lot of the time builders and recruit are not helpful when they 'mini mod'
Example?
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As far as I am concerned, the only application to the Mini-modding rule is here on the forums, NOT on the server
Hope this cleared up some confusion.
But yes. Paul added that rule some time ago in the server rules (or whatever) thread.
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As far as I am concerned, the only application to the Mini-modding rule is here on the forums, NOT on the server
Hope this cleared up some confusion.
But yes. Paul added that rule some time ago in the server rules (or whatever) thread.
Yeah, thats what the topic was about. Relkeb has confirmed there is NO MINI-MODDING RULE so don't go telling builders off anymore ;)
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As it has been almost 4 months since the last relpy, the admins had declared that (for quite some time now) there is no Mini-modding rule.
If someone is not being polite or helpful or just doesn't know what they're doing, you may tell them politely to refrain from replying to the thread, but please note that we should not be telling people off for helping others with just trying to navigate around the forums and/ or the server.
The ban appeals has its own rules (http://www.opticraft.net/index.php/topic,4343.0.html) to follow with regards to whom can post and for what reason (in that case, for appealing a user's ban-- not as discussion, argument, or off-topic threads --- and not to mention players who are not directly connected to a player's ban).
In any case, the Mini-modding rule is only treated as a suggestion, as far as the admins are concerned. The mods and admins are perfectly capable of carrying out their duties (which is common-sense), but any help from experienced players will be greatly appreciated as long as it is tasteful and knowledgeable.