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Title: BF3 VS. MW3. [READ BEFORE VOTING]
Post by: tylerhan2000 on September 09, 2011, 04:06:26 am
WATCH THIS FIRST!!!!!:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lejRvpKvSz0


Battlefield 3 Arguments:
-64 players on PC
 32 players on Consoles

-Huge maps, the sizes of some countries

-Vehicles: 20 types: from, Jets, Jeeps, LAVs, Tanks, Tansport Helicopter, Attack Helicopter, Boats, Bombers, Quads

-Destructible environment, no camping, tear buildings and cover apart

-Better Engine then Mw3, (Cod has been using the same engine since 4), frostbite 2, with EXTREMELY nice graphics, and animation imported from the EA sports Engine.

Sample(Gameplay):
NOTE: THESE ARE GAMEPLAY SCREENSHOTS, NOT CGI RENDERS.
(http://www.opticraft.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fweb-vassets.ea.com%2FAssets%2FRichmedia%2FImage%2FScreenshots%2FBF3_tank_05_656x369.jpg%3Fcb%3D1313147567&hash=8b76c5a20f3d1791e20c6343ae1abb65)  
(http://www.opticraft.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fweb-vassets.ea.com%2FAssets%2FRichmedia%2FImage%2FScreenshots%2FTHUNDER%2520RUN_656x369.jpg%3Fcb%3D1313524267&hash=c9ac31bce2c7d0bc4db4bae55a5ee04c)
(http://www.opticraft.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fweb-vassets.ea.com%2FAssets%2FRichmedia%2FImage%2FScreenshots%2FAIR%2520SUPERIORITY_656x369.jpg%3Fcb%3D1313524802&hash=3c4f19f108250a1a7600d78d92c46b37)
(http://www.opticraft.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fgematsu.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2011%2F09%2FBF3-Guillotine.jpg&hash=bcf652477078342ff2fa004ae6106bb0)
(http://www.opticraft.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fhypebeast.com%2Fimage%2F2011%2F08%2Fbattlefield-3-caspian-border-trailer-0.jpg&hash=ff4ba060b5eb97b856c7db87cbe39a95)
(http://www.opticraft.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.rickey.org%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2011%2F08%2FBattlefield-3-Caspian-Border-Official-Trailer.jpg&hash=37b1ed88fdf13b1fb7ad8d8354b5b1d6)

-Teamwork, squads, armor assaults, coordination, spotting, assaulting. (unlike CoD, where You try to be in the spotlight with kills and pulling off 360s.)

-maps can be lowered down to infantry only 16 player combat, small packed ghettos like CoD

The two head developers of infinity ward and many other IW members left activation for EA, (the owners of DICE, and the battlefield franchise.)

Call of Duty is the same game year after year, activation just milks it, no game should have a production time of only 2 years, battlefield 3 has been worked on for 5 years now.

Modern Warfare 3 arguments

More players, get game quickly.
Small(ish) maps, letting you get to action quickly.
Many different game modes.

Non-destructible buildings, putting a player on edge always, as they know there will be many camp spots.

Good leveling system, pretty quick leveling, with new guns and CoD points, allowing you to get a good class quickly.

It makes you want to keep playing, to get to the highest prestige, not a complex system.

Hits targeted range exactly: Meant for 11 year olds, and hits it exactly. Any 11 year old who plays is not too disturbed, so will keep playing, but feels "cool" to be playing a grownup game.

Any improvements, please add! Haven't played CoD in a long, long while (Hate multiplayer, and to be honest, most of these games' campaign sucks.)

Battlefield 3 gameplay:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4pCTCEpUI0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2vg7-n0v3M
Modern Warfare 3 gameplay:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=coiTJbr9m04

*NOTE* I did not put in any MW3 arguments to keep my bias off this, if anyone wants to write a argument for BF3 or MW3, Ill be happy to add it to the OP
Title: Re: BF3 VS. MW3. [READ BEFORE VOTING]
Post by: clawstrider on September 09, 2011, 04:45:39 pm
Bias is not a matter for me, as I have not played CoD in months, and only Battlefield bad company once at my friends.

CoD arguments.
More players, get game quickly.
Small(ish) maps, letting you get to action quickly.
Many different game modes.

Non-destructible buildings, putting a player on edge always, as they know there will be many camp spots.

Good leveling system, pretty quick leveling, with new guns and CoD points, allowing you to get a good class quickly.

It makes you want to keep playing, to get to the highest prestige, not a complex system.

Hits targeted range exactly: Meant for 11 year olds, and hits it exactly. Any 11 year old who plays is not too disturbed, so will keep playing, but feels "cool" to be playing a grownup game.

Any improvements, please add! Haven't played CoD in a long, long while (Hate multiplayer, and to be honest, most of these games' campaign sucks.)
Title: Re: BF3 VS. MW3. [READ BEFORE VOTING]
Post by: omaroo2 on September 09, 2011, 05:06:16 pm
Mw3 FTW!@!#
The story is just epic i cant wait to get it
I am not interested in bf3 cuz it just looks like the old versions of bf
but CoD's stories changes every year + awesome missions.
Title: Re: BF3 VS. MW3. [READ BEFORE VOTING]
Post by: apij4125 on September 09, 2011, 08:02:42 pm
Mw3 FTW!@!#
The story is just epic i cant wait to get it
I am not interested in bf3 cuz it just looks like the old versions of bf
but CoD's stories changes every year + awesome missions.
The story of cod changes every year? :o didnt know it. I only know that the latest 3 in the series are about
RUSSIAN RUSSIAN RUSSIAN
Title: Re: BF3 VS. MW3. [READ BEFORE VOTING]
Post by: raul7legend on September 09, 2011, 08:43:00 pm
Mw3 FTW!@!#
The story is just epic i cant wait to get it
I am not interested in bf3 cuz it just looks like the old versions of bf
but CoD's stories changes every year + awesome missions.
The story of cod changes every year? :o didnt know it. I only know that the latest 3 in the series are about
RUSSIAN RUSSIAN RUSSIAN
Before that was
GERMAN GERMAN GERMAN
Title: Re: BF3 VS. MW3. [READ BEFORE VOTING]
Post by: Mr_Mr_Mr on September 09, 2011, 08:49:26 pm
Call of duty is better. 'nuf said.
I hate commentaries of battlefield, I can't stand them. And I like the commentaries of COD a lot better.
Title: Re: BF3 VS. MW3. [READ BEFORE VOTING]
Post by: grand_chill on September 10, 2011, 01:03:01 am
MW3 my ass. BF3 is where its at yo.
Title: Re: BF3 VS. MW3. [READ BEFORE VOTING]
Post by: tylerhan2000 on September 10, 2011, 05:36:15 am
As the title mentioned, READ the battlefield argument and CoD arguments before making up your mind, also watch the trailers for both.

Personally, the only point that I would give to CoD, is the drama filled storyline that most kids crave. About being in the spotlight, the best, superhuman.

Battlefield is all about teamwork, coordination, lone wolfs don't get far.
Listennnnnn to the BF arguments.
Title: Re: BF3 VS. MW3. [READ BEFORE VOTING]
Post by: tylerhan2000 on September 10, 2011, 05:43:41 am
More pictures for both games would be welcomed, since no one bothers to watch the trailers.

Mr_mr_mr. Just because a game's commentary is bad to you does not make it worse, Battlefield 3 is nothing like Bad company, the BC series were only test side projects.

BESIDES

The two head developers of infinity ward and many other IW members left activation for EA, (the owners of DICE, and the battlefield franchise.)

Call of Duty is the same game year after year, activation just milks it, no game should have a production time of only 2 years, battlefield 3 has been worked on for 5 years now.
Title: Re: BF3 VS. MW3. [READ BEFORE VOTING]
Post by: Spartan on September 10, 2011, 02:30:56 pm
All military/war games are all the same.
Title: Re: BF3 VS. MW3. [READ BEFORE VOTING]
Post by: clawstrider on September 10, 2011, 02:35:34 pm
New vote suggestion: They both suck/I like them both the same/They both are awesome!
Title: Re: BF3 VS. MW3. [READ BEFORE VOTING]
Post by: Spartan on September 10, 2011, 02:36:39 pm
New vote suggestion: They both suck/I like them both the same/They both are awesome!
Im voting for THEY BOTH SUCK
Title: Re: BF3 VS. MW3. [READ BEFORE VOTING]
Post by: Nick3306 on September 10, 2011, 04:02:46 pm
Red orchestra 2 looks more promising than both, but ill go with BF3.
Title: Re: BF3 VS. MW3. [READ BEFORE VOTING]
Post by: clawstrider on September 10, 2011, 05:46:46 pm
New vote suggestion: They both suck/I like them both the same/They both are awesome!
Im voting for THEY BOTH SUCK

Hear hear!
Title: Re: BF3 VS. MW3. [READ BEFORE VOTING]
Post by: apij4125 on September 10, 2011, 08:09:17 pm
Call of duty is better. 'nuf said.
I hate commentaries of battlefield, I can't stand them. And I like the commentaries of COD a lot better.
So you dislike the commentaries of battlefied. That's ok with me. But then you hate the game?
Title: Re: BF3 VS. MW3. [READ BEFORE VOTING]
Post by: Relkeb on September 10, 2011, 09:40:03 pm
Well I don't plan on trying to convince any of you cod fanboy's otherwise. The only way you will change your mind is if you play it yourself and determine which one is better.

I personally prefer Battelfield simply because I enjoy playing it more. Long lives per match, vehicles, tactics, graphics, destruction, all that stuff. I always get pissed off playing COD cause im with a bunch of fucking 10 year olds who get a sweet kick outta' camping. Also, its just recycled garbage. Same shit, every single year. Everything just looks so "cartoony".
Title: Re: BF3 VS. MW3. [READ BEFORE VOTING]
Post by: tylerhan2000 on September 11, 2011, 05:25:46 am
^The admin has spoken

I personally you guys should give the other game some insight, research, before plain on voting like a deranged fanboy, it's call being ignorant. For now, just watch the videos for both.

I personally own Modern Warfare 2 and Black Ops, as with BF2, BFBC2, BFP4F, I believe that is the kind of thing you would need to vote in this.
Title: Re: BF3 VS. MW3. [READ BEFORE VOTING]
Post by: clawstrider on September 11, 2011, 08:51:37 am
you guys should give the other game some insight, research, before plain on voting like a deranged fanboy, it's call being ignorant.

You have no idea what stuff anybody plays... You should learn before making accusations...
Title: Re: BF3 VS. MW3. [READ BEFORE VOTING]
Post by: apij4125 on September 11, 2011, 01:41:10 pm
New guillotine trailer.
Mind blown.
Title: Re: BF3 VS. MW3. [READ BEFORE VOTING]
Post by: tylerhan2000 on September 11, 2011, 02:25:16 pm
^That.

I flagged that video because EA was uploading porn onto YouTube,
Title: Re: BF3 VS. MW3. [READ BEFORE VOTING]
Post by: Nick3306 on September 11, 2011, 03:22:28 pm
Early alpha testers have said that BF3 feels like medal of honor with prone and vehicles. That scares me since MoH was a pretty broken game.
Title: Re: BF3 VS. MW3. [READ BEFORE VOTING]
Post by: tylerhan2000 on September 11, 2011, 07:00:06 pm
I was invited to Alpha, and BF3 has to be the game of the decade.

I'm guessing the those people did not have PCs capable of handling Battlefield 3.
Title: Re: BF3 VS. MW3. [READ BEFORE VOTING]
Post by: tylerhan2000 on September 11, 2011, 07:11:21 pm
Update: Added some Battlefield 3 screenshots, I would appreciate if anyone could link up with some MW3 screenshots if they are on the CoD side of things.

@Nick, there are lots of things that are WAY better then MoH inn  BF3, BF3 has a completely different engine, EXTREMELY fluid animation, (Using parts of the EA sports Engine), Photorealistic graphics, extremely team orientated gameplay, 32-64 player matches.

I do not believe MoH has those^
Title: Re: BF3 VS. MW3. [READ BEFORE VOTING]
Post by: omaroo2 on September 11, 2011, 08:05:00 pm
urrggh,dont double post just edit........
u made it twice now.
Title: Re: BF3 VS. MW3. [READ BEFORE VOTING]
Post by: clawstrider on September 12, 2011, 05:07:30 pm
^That.

I flagged that video because EA was uploading porn onto YouTube,

Lol wut?
Title: Re: BF3 VS. MW3. [READ BEFORE VOTING]
Post by: Nick3306 on September 12, 2011, 06:33:48 pm
I am well aware of the features for both games. But an overwhelming amount of alpha testers came to that conclusion.
Title: Re: BF3 VS. MW3. [READ BEFORE VOTING]
Post by: tylerhan2000 on September 13, 2011, 01:27:49 am
overwhelming amount=trolls.
Show me the source of the story, proof, proof, proof.
Title: Re: BF3 VS. MW3. [READ BEFORE VOTING]
Post by: Nick3306 on September 13, 2011, 01:37:45 am
overwhelming amount=trolls.
Show me the source of the story, proof, proof, proof.
lol why would i make up such claims? I have BF3 fully paid for. I would gain nothing from lying.
Title: Re: BF3 VS. MW3. [READ BEFORE VOTING]
Post by: tylerhan2000 on September 13, 2011, 04:42:40 am
If you preordered my good sir, there is nothing to be worried about, you will have early access to the Beta, you may see for youself Battlefield 3, it's truly your preference that counts.
Title: Re: BF3 VS. MW3. [READ BEFORE VOTING]
Post by: Nick3306 on September 13, 2011, 12:16:28 pm
I am kinda disappointed that there most likely wont be any mod support for BF3 since BF2 project reality mod is the greatest FPS i have ever played.
Title: Re: BF3 VS. MW3. [READ BEFORE VOTING]
Post by: tylerhan2000 on September 13, 2011, 02:29:48 pm
Cod isn't any better for MoDs, if you are looking for a good game, I would like the recommend ARMA3. It seems to fit you.
Title: Re: BF3 VS. MW3. [READ BEFORE VOTING]
Post by: grand_chill on September 14, 2011, 12:09:53 am
I am kinda disappointed that there most likely wont be any mod support for BF3 since BF2 project reality mod is the greatest FPS i have ever played.
I do believe that BF3 will be covering a lot of the aspects of the reality mod anyway.
Title: Re: BF3 VS. MW3. [READ BEFORE VOTING]
Post by: Nick3306 on September 14, 2011, 12:15:26 am
I am kinda disappointed that there most likely wont be any mod support for BF3 since BF2 project reality mod is the greatest FPS i have ever played.
I do believe that BF3 will be covering a lot of the aspects of the reality mod anyway.
No, project reality was about realism. As much as people want to believe it, BF3 is not about realism. Is it more realistic than most shooters? Yes. But it doesn't come close to say arma 2 or project reality.

The frostbite 2.0 engine would be too hard to mod so they said for right now they will not release mod tools for it.
Title: Re: BF3 VS. MW3. [READ BEFORE VOTING]
Post by: tylerhan2000 on September 19, 2011, 02:51:37 pm
bump :3
Title: Re: BF3 VS. MW3. [READ BEFORE VOTING]
Post by: PsYk0Wo1F on September 20, 2011, 09:06:37 am
i believe battlefield 3 will be better. better multiplayer community, (all the immature will be playing "cod" because thy can say it quickly to their friends and make it sound cool)
the MASSIVE maps are back! 128 players on a map at once FTW! :D
and to be honest, cod has survived too long. it is the same thing over and over again. literally. i mean, the last 3 games are about russians, before that it was germans. theyre all about explosions, impossible feats, and shooting anything that moves. atleast battlefield has some tactics and squad based stuff.
(this is all in my opinion, dont want to start a flame war. but i guess the topic itself is a flame war xD hahaha)
Title: Re: BF3 VS. MW3. [READ BEFORE VOTING]
Post by: Nick3306 on September 28, 2011, 01:59:39 am
Just played the BF3 beta, have to say i am not impressed. Was it fun? Yes. But it just felt like a more polished BC2. Maybe because they only have a 32 player map with minimum vehicles for the beta map. BC2 had amazing sound and BF3 sounds seem mediocre. I will still be buying this when it comes out, but i was hoping for more from this beta.
Title: Re: BF3 VS. MW3. [READ BEFORE VOTING]
Post by: tylerhan2000 on September 28, 2011, 02:12:18 am
hence the "beta" my good sir.
Title: Re: BF3 VS. MW3. [READ BEFORE VOTING]
Post by: Nick3306 on September 28, 2011, 02:21:52 am
hence the "beta" my good sir.
Beta's closely represent the final product of the game. All major change shave been made form alpha. Anyway check you PM's on the forums.
Title: Re: BF3 VS. MW3. [READ BEFORE VOTING]
Post by: marshytheman on September 28, 2011, 04:00:12 am
MW3 over BF3 ONLY deciding factor for me is the MW3 campaign. Sorry BF fans.

EDIT: Tyler, if you are gonna ask peoples opinions and then be so one sided about the whole thing, why post?
Title: Re: BF3 VS. MW3. [READ BEFORE VOTING]
Post by: Nick3306 on September 28, 2011, 04:16:11 am
MW3 over BF3 ONLY deciding factor for me is the MW3 campaign. Sorry BF fans.
Ya all 3 hours of the MW3 campaign.... (BTW a 3 hour campaign is bad)
Title: Re: BF3 VS. MW3. [READ BEFORE VOTING]
Post by: marshytheman on September 28, 2011, 04:18:45 am
I love everything including halo which everyone disses just because they are CoD fanboys, or Battlefield fanboys etc. I'm looking forward to both games.
Title: Re: BF3 VS. MW3. [READ BEFORE VOTING]
Post by: tylerhan2000 on September 29, 2011, 12:14:25 am
AWWWW SHIT!!!!!.
I found the password for the Caspian border map (its on testing (PC only)), I tried it out, F**KING intense, after playing that, I do NOT want to go back to metro :/
sadly, the password expired and there is now a new one...

You guys really need to try that out before your final opinion of Battlefield 3.
Title: Re: BF3 VS. MW3. [READ BEFORE VOTING]
Post by: Nick3306 on September 29, 2011, 12:15:10 am
Ya, PC players have been complaining that metro is crap and i agree.

I want to point out to everyone that the BF3 open beta will be available tomorrow for ps3 and 360.
Title: Re: BF3 VS. MW3. [READ BEFORE VOTING]
Post by: tylerhan2000 on September 29, 2011, 02:54:06 pm
Operation Metro is nothing compared to  Caspian border. I have never had more fun in a video game then that round on CB. :/
Title: Re: BF3 VS. MW3. [READ BEFORE VOTING]
Post by: clawstrider on September 29, 2011, 06:24:41 pm
I saw a video  (Link (http://www.youtube.com/totalhalibut#p/u/4/H9ndz13zUms)) of Caspian boarder, and although I must admit it looks very good, I do not know whether I will be getting battlefield, as none of the big FPS (CoD, BF) seem very casual player friendly (I may play 1 hour a week, possibly) but I don't know... If prices go down a lot...
Title: Re: BF3 VS. MW3. [READ BEFORE VOTING]
Post by: Mr_Mr_Mr on September 29, 2011, 09:36:17 pm
Tyler, your signature is creepy :( It got my router wrong though, I'm not using comcast :)
Title: Re: BF3 VS. MW3. [READ BEFORE VOTING]
Post by: ReljaM on September 30, 2011, 10:08:08 am
I don't like them both. I like Total war games!
Title: Re: BF3 VS. MW3. [READ BEFORE VOTING]
Post by: clawstrider on September 30, 2011, 02:57:56 pm
I don't like them both. I like Total war games!

Yes :D The best one probably has to be Rome, even though it is really old, I love it (Selucid FTW!). Napoleon is good too :)
Title: Re: BF3 VS. MW3. [READ BEFORE VOTING]
Post by: ReljaM on September 30, 2011, 04:45:06 pm
I don't like them both. I like Total war games!

Yes :D The best one probably has to be Rome, even though it is really old, I love it (Selucid FTW!). Napoleon is good too :)
I have France, half Germany, Spain, Italy (without Sicily) Balkan, Turkey and Egypt  ;D
Title: Re: BF3 VS. MW3. [READ BEFORE VOTING]
Post by: Nick3306 on September 30, 2011, 05:05:33 pm
This is a SS i took from my time playing last night. Now this is on high settings, not very high or ultra. So the graphics look better than this.
(http://www.opticraft.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FgvYio.jpg&hash=7d8dbfc55ea42af6584a1653508254b4)
Title: Re: BF3 VS. MW3. [READ BEFORE VOTING]
Post by: clawstrider on October 01, 2011, 07:43:11 am
I don't like them both. I like Total war games!

Yes :D The best one probably has to be Rome, even though it is really old, I love it (Selucid FTW!). Napoleon is good too :)
I have France, half Germany, Spain, Italy (without Sicily) Balkan, Turkey and Egypt  ;D

Your selucid empire? :D

And Nick, althought it looks good, could you show me a pic of looking down sights (Especially sniperesque one)? I am interested to see how they did it.
Title: Re: BF3 VS. MW3. [READ BEFORE VOTING]
Post by: ReljaM on October 01, 2011, 10:01:15 am
I don't like them both. I like Total war games!

Yes :D The best one probably has to be Rome, even though it is really old, I love it (Selucid FTW!). Napoleon is good too :)
I have France, half Germany, Spain, Italy (without Sicily) Balkan, Turkey and Egypt  ;D
No, I am SPQR!
Your selucid empire? :D

And Nick, althought it looks good, could you show me a pic of looking down sights (Especially sniperesque one)? I am interested to see how they did it.
Title: Re: BF3 VS. MW3. [READ BEFORE VOTING]
Post by: clawstrider on October 01, 2011, 11:25:28 am
I don't like them both. I like Total war games!

Yes :D The best one probably has to be Rome, even though it is really old, I love it (Selucid FTW!). Napoleon is good too :)
I have France, half Germany, Spain, Italy (without Sicily) Balkan, Turkey and Egypt  ;D

Your selucid empire? :D

And Nick, althought it looks good, could you show me a pic of looking down sights (Especially sniperesque one)? I am interested to see how they did it.
No, I am SPQR!

SPQR are rubbish :P I told them to give me map info for map info, or I would attack, and they said no. I then destroyed Egypt, and said it again. They said no :P. About 30 turns later, 5 full ship fleets sailed through the pass and landed at Rome. Lets just say... No SPQR any more :P
Selucid have everything Romans have that are good (Silver Shield Leigionnaires), everything the greeks have that are good (Silver Shield Pike Men), Everything whoever is good at cavalry have (Companion Cavalry, Cataphratcs),  and then they have Elephants aswell :D
Title: Re: BF3 VS. MW3. [READ BEFORE VOTING]
Post by: tylerhan2000 on October 02, 2011, 05:28:17 am
Here is a nice live Daul-com I made with my friend on BF3 Beta. (I was on High)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wZx7oPEYKo
Title: Re: BF3 VS. MW3. [READ BEFORE VOTING]
Post by: Nick3306 on October 02, 2011, 11:28:58 pm
I just downloaded the beta for my ps3 and from what i can tell the consoles play it in between low and medium settings PC wise. I say between because it seems to me that the shadows, lighting, and draw distance would be on low while the textures would be on medium.