Opticraft Community
Discussion forum => Legacy => Archives => General Discussion => Topic started by: Luminaeus on September 15, 2011, 01:36:31 am
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Classic server list has been reorganized. We're no longer at the top. The endless supply of free nubs has been cut, we must now compete for new users like everyone else.
Should make Ops' and Admins' lives easier, which is good, because they'll need to be nice to people to keep them around.
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Um. We'r not? Darn! I thought we r only competing with t9k and andycraft?
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Um. We'r not? Darn! I thought we r only competing with t9k and andycraft?
Honestly, most people came here because Opticraft was at the top of the list and under it says "The one Notch tweeted about." I saw that and thought "Well, must be legit." If Opticraft wasn't at the top, I probably would have joined T9K because they seem more community oriented and apparently have a pro-ish graphic designer/community organizer on staff.
It seems to me that the strategy of Opticraft's survival was one of damage control. The server was hooked up to a firehose of rampaging nubs and it took some heavy handed rules, Ops, and Admins to keep it under control. We could get away with less features and less rewards simply because most people weren't willing to shop around before picking a server. Without the nub-supply, we will have to quickly adapt or sink into obsolescence.
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Um, wrong topic? What does this have to do with beta?
Anyways, the list got updated: http://www.minecraft.net/classic/list
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I chose opticraft cuz the name was nice :P
And one possibility why we have fewer players could be due to the negative comments about ops banning ppl for no reason(its the grieftraps)..
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Um, wrong topic? What does this have to do with beta?
Anyways, the list got updated: http://www.minecraft.net/classic/list
Whoops, feel free to move it to the correct forum then. I thought there was only one general discussion :)
Oh, and if my graphic design skills can be of service, feel free to ask. I haven't kept up with php much over the years, but I can definitely put together a clean, modern design for the site. After $90 of donations the future of the server is of some small importance to me :P
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Hehe. $90 is small?
Why not u create a logo? Or a poster? Something like that. :P
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Um. We'r not? Darn! I thought we r only competing with t9k and andycraft?
Honestly, most people came here because Opticraft was at the top of the list and under it says "The one Notch tweeted about." I saw that and thought "Well, must be legit." If Opticraft wasn't at the top, I probably would have joined T9K because they seem more community oriented and apparently have a pro-ish graphic designer/community organizer on staff.
It seems to me that the strategy of Opticraft's survival was one of damage control. The server was hooked up to a firehose of rampaging nubs and it took some heavy handed rules, Ops, and Admins to keep it under control. We could get away with less features and less rewards simply because most people weren't willing to shop around before picking a server. Without the nub-supply, we will have to quickly adapt or sink into obsolescence.
I dont see a reason to post any of this since you aren't offering any solutions. I know you don't have bad intentions but it seems like you are just complaining about the classic server while praising Tk9.
Optical is now dedicating the majority of his time to the opticraft beta server so most likely the future of the opticraft community is on beta.
By the way, why would having a "pro-ish" graphic designer make tk9 better?
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I dont see a reason to post any of this since you aren't offering any solutions. I know you don't have bad intentions but it seems like you are just complaining about the classic server while praising Tk9.
By the way, why would having a "pro-ish" graphic designer make tk9 better?
I wouldn't say I'm praising T9K, I just said they give a nice first impression. But when you're competing for new members, that sort of thing becomes important. Hence the benefit of having a polished web presence.
Optical is now dedicating the majority of his time to the opticraft beta server so most likely the future of the opticraft community is on beta.
This is good, because beta is definitely the future. Especially now that 1.8 has a legit Creative mode.
Solutions?
I would like to see a beta version of our classic server. 512x512x96 flatgrass worlds but with all the fanciness that beta allows. Same ranks with same block restrictions - Except when recruits place water/lava its the real deal with physics. And redstone should be limited to builders, or crafters, depending on how much server CPU use it requires.
I would also like to see a shift in focus to community development instead of community policing. This should come naturally as OPs will suddenly have more free time to build and have fun.
Outside of the Minecraft world, we should have someone promote us in all the usual internet locations, and if it's desired, I can handle the graphics end of things.
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we could enter the machinma top 5contests we can enter as opticraft dev server some guys at a sever called mc server uk got popular we canalso create a specal map like an objective map so we have to remake things in video ect but only members+ can join inive seen lots of servers do that
btw im working ona opticraft logo
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Buchanfree, use punctuation lol.
But good idea.
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I dont see a reason to post any of this since you aren't offering any solutions. I know you don't have bad intentions but it seems like you are just complaining about the classic server while praising Tk9.
By the way, why would having a "pro-ish" graphic designer make tk9 better?
I wouldn't say I'm praising T9K, I just said they give a nice first impression. But when you're competing for new members, that sort of thing becomes important. Hence the benefit of having a polished web presence.
Optical is now dedicating the majority of his time to the opticraft beta server so most likely the future of the opticraft community is on beta.
This is good, because beta is definitely the future. Especially now that 1.8 has a legit Creative mode.
Solutions?
I would like to see a beta version of our classic server. 512x512x96 flatgrass worlds but with all the fanciness that beta allows. Same ranks with same block restrictions - Except when recruits place water/lava its the real deal with physics. And redstone should be limited to builders, or crafters, depending on how much server CPU use it requires.
I would also like to see a shift in focus to community development instead of community policing. This should come naturally as OPs will suddenly have more free time to build and have fun.
Outside of the Minecraft world, we should have someone promote us in all the usual internet locations, and if it's desired, I can handle the graphics end of things.
As far as i know optical is only planning a survival server not a creative one.
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Buchanfree, use punctuation lol.
But good idea.
i youse puctuaton im not on a pc im on a verrrrrry slow phone
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Buchanfree, use punctuation lol.
But good idea.
i youse puctuaton im not on a pc im on a verrrrrry slow phone
Hey im on my DSi, but i still use punctuation alot lol.
but yea, I choose this server because i was, well kinda banned from a different server, so i came to a huge amount of people server, so i choose this server! :D and thats my story on how i joined this server ;) Opticraft, FTW oFTo
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As far as i know optical is only planning a survival server not a creative one.
Everyone has a survival server. There's thousands of them. It would be a big mistake to not try to do something different.
Do you know of anyone who is planning a classic-creative style beta server? That would be a big draw for people like me.
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The real issue is the lists sorting needs to be reverted back. There have been numerous "adjustments" to how the list works, im sure i can figure it out this time. (Look at the list now ;))
With that said, please tweet @Mollstam to revert the lists sorting to the old method, or sort by uptime. This would really be appreciated. He has listened to us in the past.
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Um... Why are we top when it is in Alphabetical order? :S
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Um... Why are we top when it is in Alphabetical order? :S
Bribes.
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Um... Why are we top when it is in Alphabetical order? :S
Bribes.
Influence and power ftw.
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Optical is actually Notch! Bwahaha!
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No one is on the classic server. :'( Im so ronery.
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Ronely grand.. Theres no one on beta either.. Maybe its our timezone. ;)
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As far as i know optical is only planning a survival server not a creative one.
Everyone has a survival server. There's thousands of them. It would be a big mistake to not try to do something different.
Do you know of anyone who is planning a classic-creative style beta server? That would be a big draw for people like me.
Lemme get this straight OUR CLASSIC server is the creative server. I have tried beta creative it is almost like classic. And most ppl play classic cause it's free hence a classic server will draw more ppl then a BETA creative server.
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Um... Why are we top when it is in Alphabetical order? :S
Bribes.
yay bribes, but of course what were the bribes? :P
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Notch's own world and a coloured title. How awesome. Heh.
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The new list is awful, especially for small servers. It really should be back to how it was.
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Lemme get this straight OUR CLASSIC server is the creative server. I have tried beta creative it is almost like classic. And most ppl play classic cause it's free hence a classic server will draw more ppl then a BETA creative server.
Before 1.8, classic was the only way to get proper creative mode. Now, people have the choice between stripped-down creative and full-featured creative.
You can't honestly think that having flowing water, dynamic lighting, redstone machinery, music boxes, traps, pistons, etc, is almost the same as plain static blocks.
Classic will continue to draw people because its free, and its smart to keep it around for that reason. But to expect those with (or can afford) beta to keep playing classic now is silly.
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As true as that may be, we still have a survival server so the classic server would be like our creative server. Is it as good as beta creative? No, but it is most likley way cheaper.
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Um... Why are we top when it is in Alphabetical order? :S
Bribes.
And that is why you, sir, are my hero.
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Seems as though the default sort was changed from name to upload time. :\
I guess that's good though since Opticraft is up all the time it'll eventually make it's way back to the top.
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What they should do is have options of what order you want the server list to go in like alphabetical, the time it's been up and the amount of players, maybe even more if there are some other good ways too.
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What they should do is have options of what order you want the server list to go in like alphabetical, the time it's been up and the amount of players, maybe even more if there are some other good ways too.
They have that.. Look at the arrows on the serverlist and click one :P