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Title: Spawners at spawn
Post by: Taco on May 06, 2012, 12:19:10 am
I saw on another server a pig spawner at the spawn, I was wondering if that could be done on this server. It would help new players get started and be a way to get easy food.
Just a suggestion. :)
Title: Re: Spawners at spawn
Post by: ragequiter13 on May 06, 2012, 12:25:58 am
You should already start with food like stake apples and bread.
Title: Re: Spawners at spawn
Post by: arsenic_shark on May 06, 2012, 12:28:26 am
We give new guests and members start packs, these should make any player joining the game for the first time easier to get going,

We understand sometimes you want more than want you get due to the quantities other others provide but as of right now it is not subject to change.

thanks for the suggestion anyway
Title: Re: Spawners at spawn
Post by: ViperZeroOne on May 06, 2012, 05:46:04 pm
Not only do new players get food, they get tools which allow them to quickly start collecting materials.  There IS a market right by the spawn that buys materials and sells food.  There shouldn't be any reason on this server for anyone to be starving, unless they're doing it wrong.
Title: Re: Spawners at spawn
Post by: Myskillzownu on May 06, 2012, 06:26:50 pm
That would:
1) Make the value of pork 0
2) Make the area flooded with hungry fellos. (Maybe not; most people have no trouble getting food.)
3) Create a new-found laziness in some players

Getting food really isn't that hard.
My first day on this server I already had a simple melon farm going, and in itself it could more than feed me and all of my friends.

Plus you are given food when you start, and if you sign up on the forums you get $500, which you could spend on food and seeds at /warp market.

-Dave
Title: Re: Spawners at spawn
Post by: SoulKnightGT on May 06, 2012, 06:30:42 pm
Remember, this is surpose to be a Survival server, I think we're pushing it already with a market.
Title: Re: Spawners at spawn
Post by: Myskillzownu on May 06, 2012, 06:40:10 pm
^ Exactly.

Though I think when implemented correctly (which this seems to be), it can add a new level of fun to a server.

It gives people goals (like raise $1,000,000), and keeps people hooked for a longer period of time.

And the way this is set up, the only "real" shops (buy/sell with a sign) are the ones at the market.
Due to that, most of the sales will take place at market, but people still have the option of selling/buying with each other. (Creating more of a community in a sense, and allowing users to sell items that can't be sold at the market.)
And the market prices are set so you do have to work if you plan on buying supplies there. (Ex: I was selling gold blocks at market, and I accidentally bought three of them. Cost me $3000 each, and I could only sell them back for like $500.)

Doing this also allows players to focus on one area is they so wish, such as mining, and purchase say, logs, from the market.

Players can also choose to simply not use the market if they so wish, and just play a plain survival game with their friends or by themselves.

Long story short, it helps create a more diverse player base, it allows the same feel of survival to remain, it gives it the real feel of a multi-player server, and it gives players more to do, which in turn results in them staying longer and potentially donating/inviting friends.

And holy crap, I just realized how off-topic that is from pig spawners, so I'm just gonna stop.

-Dave
Title: Re: Spawners at spawn
Post by: ragequiter13 on May 06, 2012, 06:49:43 pm
I saw on another server a pig spawner at the spawn
what server?
Title: Re: Spawners at spawn
Post by: SoulKnightGT on May 06, 2012, 06:51:44 pm
To LONG
Yes, I know that, i'm just saying that if you got money, and are to lazy to get the materials your self, buy them. It's not surviving. And yes, lets drop it :P
Title: Re: Spawners at spawn
Post by: Myskillzownu on May 06, 2012, 07:50:22 pm
Yes, I know that, i'm just saying that if you got money, and are to lazy to get the materials your self, buy them. It's not surviving. And yes, lets drop it :P
And I agree with you, but it's still the players choice whether they use it or not, and people don't have an endless supply of money either. (Unless they worked for it that is. And the only thing that makes this null is those who have immense melon farms, where all they have to do is flip a lever to get more money.)
This could actually be a good use for multiple worlds too. (With economy/without economy.)
That would be nice in the sense that if you want to play a real survival game, you can. Players could also switch between worlds depending on how bored they were.

But yes, let's drop it. This is my last post related to it, no feuds need be started.

Edit:
Almost broke my rule and argued my point in defence to ragequiter13's post, but I caught myself last minute.
Title: Re: Spawners at spawn
Post by: ViperZeroOne on May 06, 2012, 07:54:07 pm
Personally I think people have it too easy to begin with.  Survival means survival.  It doesn't mean marketplace, money, etc. etc. etc.

People forget how easy they actually have it on a server like this.  Go and play real survival on single player and then judge how hard it is to survive on this server.
Title: Re: Spawners at spawn
Post by: thedude114 on May 07, 2012, 03:29:03 am
My first day, I had to scrounge for wood, having blown my money's on a melon bloc.

The server is still quite hard.
Title: Re: Spawners at spawn
Post by: illiwill on May 07, 2012, 04:56:07 am
The server is still quite hard.
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ARE YOU KIDDING ME?!? No offense, but I think the server is EASY! I have much more stuff than I need. I personally think optical should add something harder in the server.
Title: Re: Spawners at spawn
Post by: hutchinske on May 07, 2012, 12:57:22 pm
Guys the point to a survival server is to SURVIVE.  If you really want to have a spawner to use go find one. I co-own a town and we have found 4 right underneath the town they aren't that hard to find.
Title: Re: Spawners at spawn
Post by: Boshiwarrior on May 07, 2012, 01:01:31 pm
It is just like a new Singeplayer server. Only the first days you have it hard. When you have a house and a lot of stuff (and a lot of money) it is easy. If you remove the market it don't make any differences. If we have the Member+ world it would by more survival, because that is new.
Title: Re: Spawners at spawn
Post by: thedude114 on May 07, 2012, 01:52:09 pm
The server is still quite hard.

ARE YOU KIDDING ME?!? No offense, but I think the server is EASY! I have much more stuff than I need. I personally think optical should add something harder in the server.
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I ment for beginners. Ones who start without strings to pull to get things. Like me. I started a melon farm, then some dude obliterated it. Then I made it a wheat farm, until some dude obliterated it. Quite difficult.
Title: Re: Spawners at spawn
Post by: Newbrict on May 07, 2012, 09:44:14 pm
Everyone who's complaining that the server is too hard, you must have no idea how to play this game...
In my first 2 weeks of playing on Opticraft I had enough materials gathered to keep me self sufficient since, I barely even go mining anymore because of the sheer amount of cobblestone, iron, diamonds i have from previous trips...
Just spend some time to get a diamonds tool set, and go mine for an hour, you will be surprised how simple it is to be successful on this server...

With that I'm pretty sure you can't even die of hunger on this server, which makes this suggestion.... silly.
Title: Re: Spawners at spawn
Post by: Taco on May 11, 2012, 02:35:34 pm
ohhhhh right i forgot about the starting pack, i died shortly after i got on the server so i didnt use much. it would take a lot more out of the term "survival server"...
Title: Re: Spawners at spawn
Post by: Taco on May 11, 2012, 05:16:53 pm
I saw on another server a pig spawner at the spawn
what server?
not sure im allowed to say, but i didnt see it in the rules. im going to play it safe though, also they dont have it anymore, they have the WORST idea on wiping the map every 2 weeks or so, so its not there anymore either...
Title: Re: Spawners at spawn
Post by: ViperZeroOne on May 11, 2012, 10:30:54 pm
Everyone who's complaining that the server is too hard, you must have no idea how to play this game...
In my first 2 weeks of playing on Opticraft I had enough materials gathered to keep me self sufficient since, I barely even go mining anymore because of the sheer amount of cobblestone, iron, diamonds i have from previous trips...
Just spend some time to get a diamonds tool set, and go mine for an hour, you will be surprised how simple it is to be successful on this server...

With that I'm pretty sure you can't even die of hunger on this server, which makes this suggestion.... silly.

Agreed... Wait, after 2 weeks?  In my first 2 HOURS I had everything I needed to be self sufficient.  I went to the market, clicked once to buy melon seeds, once to buy wood, and once to buy cobble.  Then I went out to an open area, did a /sethome, placed the protection stone I was GIVEN by registering, and made a small melon farm.  Then I just kept harvesting.  (SELF SUFFICIENT) ... In no time I was grabbing more protection stones and quickly expanded my melon farm to 33x33.  Collecting 100% manually, mind you!  In under 2 hours I not only had a rotating income, I was starting to BUY materials for a shelter.

Hell, after 2 weeks I had a fortress built and 100% protected by PS stones.  But that's not the point.  I was self-sufficient in AN HOUR...  Anyone who says this server is hard doesn't know anything about playing Minecraft survival.
Title: Re: Spawners at spawn
Post by: illiwill on May 11, 2012, 11:33:16 pm
The server is still quite hard.

ARE YOU KIDDING ME?!? No offense, but I think the server is EASY! I have much more stuff than I need. I personally think optical should add something harder in the server.
I ment for beginners. Ones who start without strings to pull to get things. Like me. I started a melon farm, then some dude obliterated it. Then I made it a wheat farm, until some dude obliterated it. Quite difficult.
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Ohhh. Yeah when I first started I just killed myself to get full hunger because I didn't have any food. Then I just sold dirt and cobble, then i got enough to buy 1 melon. I made A seed, and nowI have a melon farm enough to get me 1K-2K each harvest
Title: Re: Spawners at spawn
Post by: Chipaton on May 12, 2012, 07:37:48 pm
There would be TONS of people at the spawn. It could also hurt the economy very badly.