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Title: THE CITY OF DARUTH
Post by: Creepercicker on May 13, 2012, 08:50:09 pm
As mayor of the city i try my very best to make a happy and peaceful community for the residents with the rapid increase of
population and the staggering number of residents 20+ and the growing popularity of the city i find it even harder to keep all the peace. the hardest thing to keep safe is the cow/colored sheep pens.

1) i have ps stones protecting the pen
2) its completely walled in.
3) they always seem to die.
4) as many of you that are reading this probably know it is hard to find animals and on top of that breed them safely and make them the color of the rainbow.

i am simply asking if it would be to much to ask if someone could restore what i had. (40 sheep all colors of the rainbow). i know the usually answer is no. put seeing as how i have had to do it on my own 3 times already im getting sick and tired of it. this was only possible because the killer left a couple sheep. well not this time...so plz have a heart and help me out. :'(
Title: Re: THE CITY OF DARUTH
Post by: thedude114 on May 13, 2012, 08:53:25 pm
Wrong section
Title: Re: THE CITY OF DARUTH
Post by: Creepercicker on May 13, 2012, 09:15:31 pm
Wrong section

"need help or have a question" look i have both guess im in the right section
Title: Re: THE CITY OF DARUTH
Post by: thedude114 on May 13, 2012, 09:46:57 pm
Oh. I just read the title. I was in a bit of a hurry.
Title: Re: THE CITY OF DARUTH
Post by: ☣2crzy4uall☣ on May 14, 2012, 01:09:45 am
heres what I've noticed, animals will go through walls, and wander off, they get out if there isnt a roof, and if u notice they huddle in corners, when enough of them do, the go through the wall. Not quite sure why but this protects the corners somehow, i left 10 mooshroom in this room for 2 weeks, all still there lol.
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Title: Re: THE CITY OF DARUTH
Post by: Creepercicker on May 14, 2012, 02:11:02 am
thanks for the tip. but this is not the problem seeing as how i had a roof and they been  safe for about 2 weeks with out any problem. they were deff killed not strays.
Title: Re: THE CITY OF DARUTH
Post by: Hasan (Tabooti) on May 14, 2012, 12:55:20 pm
I'm going to slip this in here... http://www.opticraft.net/index.php/topic,7422.0.html
Title: Re: THE CITY OF DARUTH
Post by: Kascas on May 14, 2012, 03:28:39 pm
make an secret arc of noah somewhere hidden, with 2 animals of all kinds on it  :D
then you can always resupply the death animals on the surface
Title: Re: THE CITY OF DARUTH
Post by: Pugabyte on May 14, 2012, 03:35:27 pm
I had a very similar problem before I completely ditched my livestock farm for greifing reasons. But recently I figured out that even if there is a PS, the "desperate" greifers can briefly break the wall that is inside of the PS zone, and if the sheep is in the right position, the greifer can hit the animal. So tabooti, I would try double layering the pen. Could you tell me if this is what you were looking for?Plz also tell me if this works if you try it out. Thx.
Title: Re: THE CITY OF DARUTH
Post by: Creepercicker on May 15, 2012, 03:40:16 pm
thanks for all the tips. but i rally hope someone that can rollback animals or spawn new ones takes this into consideration. in my eyes rolling back a griefed house is the equal to rolling back greifed animal farms.
Title: Re: THE CITY OF DARUTH
Post by: Xeadin on May 15, 2012, 03:53:38 pm
Unforunately, animals/ mobs are not tracked on a log that blocks/ entities are logged on, so we have no way we can find out who did what to any mob/ animal.
Title: Re: THE CITY OF DARUTH
Post by: Creepercicker on May 15, 2012, 04:42:30 pm
okay... so the reason why you cant spawn animals is because. you dont know if they were there before? well i  can ensure you that they were ask other mods they saw all my sheepies.
btw i dont really care who did it. i just would like the sheep back
Title: Re: THE CITY OF DARUTH
Post by: partyguy15 on May 17, 2012, 08:25:34 pm
Proud to be part of your town creeper
Title: Re: THE CITY OF DARUTH
Post by: Creepercicker on May 18, 2012, 01:44:50 am
thanks i just hope the ops will consider  :-\
Title: Re: THE CITY OF DARUTH
Post by: ViperZeroOne on May 18, 2012, 07:28:56 pm
Unforunately, animals/ mobs are not tracked on a log that blocks/ entities are logged on, so we have no way we can find out who did what to any mob/ animal.

This also means we can't replace any killed animals.  If you find griefing (how they got in to your pen) then we can repair the griefing and ban those involved, but we still can't validate numbers or replace any missing animals.  Sorry.
Title: Re: THE CITY OF DARUTH
Post by: Creepercicker on May 19, 2012, 04:07:29 am
im confused...like you cant or you wont.  i can validate types and color but not # of animals so 2 of each color would work. btw i dont understand the difference between a block and a animal. a grief is a grief regardless. but if this is really impossible and will never happen let me know. because i feel as tho im not asking for much...just fixing griefed animals should be easy. 2 sheep and 2 cows and 2 pigs.  ill even take care of the dyes (which are a pain in the arse) but if none of that is possible i understand....im sure you can sympathies tho... animals are hard to come by in this server
Title: Re: THE CITY OF DARUTH
Post by: ViperZeroOne on May 19, 2012, 05:02:18 am
Your right, they are both classified as grief.  The difference is, we can easily see logs of what changes were made to blocks and then have the system reverse the changes.  With animals there are no logs and as such we can't reverse the changes.  We also don't have the ability to create animals out of thin air.  

Even if we could just create animals, we wouldn't be "allowed" to because if we were then anyone can simply say "Someone killed my _____" and get free animals.  We have no way to prove if they had the animal or not.  We can't though, so that's not a problem.

It's nothing against you personally Creepercicker.  The one responsible will pay the price for what they've done, by being banned from the server.  That's, unfortunately, the most we can do in the case of griefed animals.

My suggestion is to build a complete enclosure around any new animals you get, with PS protection, so griefers have absolutely no chance to kill them.
Title: Re: THE CITY OF DARUTH
Post by: Creepercicker on May 19, 2012, 05:08:47 am
okay i understand...btw come to my town pay me a vist (when mojang gets back from there birthday dinner and realized oh hey silly jeb flipped the server switch not the light switch!) check out my farm and the town...it is completed enclosed with ps stones... those griefers use evil gypsy magic! if you think the town js good enough to be awarded the city protection plz support it, it would be greatly appreciated!
Title: Re: THE CITY OF DARUTH
Post by: ViperZeroOne on May 19, 2012, 05:19:41 am
Haha, sounds cool.

I'd still put some kind of building around your animals, like maybe a barn or something.  Walls and a roof are the only true way to keep griefers away from them, trust me I have to do it with my own farm too.